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Post by parfive on Jan 29, 2017 22:06:43 GMT -5
Total Members: 8,103
Board history. Ain’t nuthin wrong with a running count.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 29, 2017 22:07:25 GMT -5
Bonus question: WhoTF is andy in . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . Mark's middle name. What do I win?
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Post by 1dave on Jan 29, 2017 22:11:14 GMT -5
$3,000 sounds a bit much to me. What happens if Proboards goes out of business? Yes, it has happened before.
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Post by 1dave on Jan 29, 2017 22:24:45 GMT -5
Speed forward to March!
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Post by captbob on Jan 29, 2017 22:45:47 GMT -5
How much would it be worth to shut down the Politics Forum just to listen to Bob squeal? I am not the only one here that enjoys political discussion. I'm just the one that cares the least about reactions to my posts. If there were no area in which to discuss current events and other wayward topics, I would simply have to go find some gay thread about arthropods or cell biology to hijack.
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Post by 1dave on Jan 29, 2017 23:00:49 GMT -5
The Shout Box is OK, but "Life, the Universe and Everything" with pictures and more space is by far The better way to let off steam.
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Post by Original Admin on Jan 30, 2017 4:21:51 GMT -5
There is mention of a newsletter on the main site. It says there that the information submitted for that will never be sold. Does that affect the value of this sale? I mean to third parties - so that people who sign up don't get emails from both RTH AND third parties (who would probably sell it again and again). However if its a problem - I can delete the list no worries.
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Post by Original Admin on Jan 30, 2017 5:11:33 GMT -5
I've never seen a newsletter since I have been here. Yes, major bummer! Thank you for giving it a shot, Tommy. Mark does not seem to realize the value of this site is it's members. He seems to think it is worth more than it is, typical. What can we do if he won't listen to reason? How about if we devalue it for him, or at least get him to see how important all of us are to the viability of the site? I propose we ALL boycott the site, just for two days, to show him what the loss of the members would do. Without us, it is nothing, and may make it look less attractive to prospective buyers. Two days at first, maybe a week the next time. After that, he may listen to reason, and his price may come down. I have worked for a business that was sold, and I was one of the commodities that went with it. It sucked! RockPicker!!!!!! "He seems to think it is worth more than it is, typical.". Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was having a kind of (but true) light hearted chat the other day (both on and offline) about not wanting to hand it over for what I considered a clapped out banger of a car. Here is the kind of thing. I think I look at that "thing" and say - "Is that all RTH is actually worth to someone?". I have to say "no" to myself - it is worth more than a clapped out banger. However, is it worth a brand new car? Equally - no it is not. (I am not actually looking for a car - just a comparison). Personally - I look at it from different angles. The rocktumblinghobby.com domain itself. At the end of the day - the domain is key to everything we have here on the forum. I know people have different views on where the value is, but from my perspective, the domain is the driver. Without it - we have no forum. That is absolutely not debateable - its a fact. Without a domain I wouldn't have been able to start the forum, the domain did, still does, and always will - guide people here to the forum. The forum. Handing over admin rights isn't easy for me you know. However I am realistic - just because ***I*** have 15 years worth of sentimental value in something, does not lead me to expect that a prospective buyer should see fit to increase their offer in recognition of my sentiment. My sentiment is my own - non-transferable. The future - well, I have not gone outside the forum yet to sell - I hope I dont have to. There are many places I can put a reserve down and create an auction. I have offered it on the forum..... a) Because I 100% know that a business minded individual will be able to turn a profit (and therefore this hopefully (in my benefit) adds value to the domain and therefore the sale price) - fairly standard way of looking at things. b) Because I want it to be run by someone into rocks - not someone who knows nothing about the hobby. c) Because not only would it be best run by someone into rocks/lapidary etc - a member of the forum who is into rocks would be even better - because they *know* the forum. I do hope that it all comes good from within the forum - for everyone. I know its worth more than a cruddy car. I can't value it at a new car by a long shot - so somewhere is a balance. I haven't been able to place a value on it - but cars seem to be a good way of looking at things - for me at least. At the end of the day - if nobody values the site at an amount I can sit with, its not going to be like I hold a grudge or anything daft - I will just accept that the reality is a mis-match of valuation - no big issue - and I will keep it - I wouldn't just "shut it all down".
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rockpickerforever
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RIP Jean Bradley, you are forever loved
Member since July 2011
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 30, 2017 5:48:52 GMT -5
Sorry for the crack about you "feeling it is worth more than it is." I didn't mean to bash or offend you, my comment was driven by frustration.
I do understand where you are coming from, Mark. Of course you want to get maximum value out of it, and there is nothing wrong with that. So the sticking point is mismatched value? I liked your car analogy, lol.
I also appreciate your thoughts on offering it to members here first. It would definitely be best if kept in the hands of someone in the field, not a person with no knowledge of it. Although it would be wonderful to come to some kind of agreement, and let you move on, if that agreement cannot be reached, it is good to know that you would not just "shut it down."
Thank you Mark, for the more open communication. Jean
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Post by MrP on Jan 30, 2017 6:03:05 GMT -5
I like Mark using the car analogy. At one time I had a 2 Trackmasters, small tracked caterpillar type crawlers, that I wanted to sell. They had no real value because of the age and could not really be used as a working machine. They weighed about 4,000 lbs each. I had spent a lot of time getting one of them running and in working condition. When I decided to sell I wanted somebody to buy that was willing to keep both of them and not scrap them, the price of scrap was high at the time. I knew I could not get money for the time and effort I had put into them but had to get enough so the person buying was willing to keep and rebuild, not scrap. I was told, by scrap people, that I was asking way too much but I held out until I found a person who bought them for him and his son to rebuild. Sure would like to have gotten the money I 'thought' they were worth but as always they were only worth what somebody was willing to pay. Just glad I found somebody looking for a project.
Good Luck Original Admin .....................................MrP
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 9:56:12 GMT -5
I'm here to help!
Happy hounding.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 30, 2017 10:25:31 GMT -5
I've never seen a newsletter since I have been here. Yes, major bummer! Thank you for giving it a shot, Tommy. Mark does not seem to realize the value of this site is it's members. He seems to think it is worth more than it is, typical. What can we do if he won't listen to reason? How about if we devalue it for him, or at least get him to see how important all of us are to the viability of the site? I propose we ALL boycott the site, just for two days, to show him what the loss of the members would do. Without us, it is nothing, and may make it look less attractive to prospective buyers. Two days at first, maybe a week the next time. After that, he may listen to reason, and his price may come down. I have worked for a business that was sold, and I was one of the commodities that went with it. It sucked! RockPicker!!!!!! "He seems to think it is worth more than it is, typical.". Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was having a kind of (but true) light hearted chat the other day (both on and offline) about not wanting to hand it over for what I considered a clapped out banger of a car. Here is the kind of thing. I think I look at that "thing" and say - "Is that all RTH is actually worth to someone?". I have to say "no" to myself - it is worth more than a clapped out banger. However, is it worth a brand new car? Equally - no it is not. (I am not actually looking for a car - just a comparison). Personally - I look at it from different angles. The rocktumblinghobby.com domain itself. At the end of the day - the domain is key to everything we have here on the forum. I know people have different views on where the value is, but from my perspective, the domain is the driver. Without it - we have no forum. That is absolutely not debateable - its a fact. Without a domain I wouldn't have been able to start the forum, the domain did, still does, and always will - guide people here to the forum. The forum. Handing over admin rights isn't easy for me you know. However I am realistic - just because ***I*** have 15 years worth of sentimental value in something, does not lead me to expect that a prospective buyer should see fit to increase their offer in recognition of my sentiment. My sentiment is my own - non-transferable. The future - well, I have not gone outside the forum yet to sell - I hope I dont have to. There are many places I can put a reserve down and create an auction. I have offered it on the forum..... a) Because I 100% know that a business minded individual will be able to turn a profit (and therefore this hopefully (in my benefit) adds value to the domain and therefore the sale price) - fairly standard way of looking at things. b) Because I want it to be run by someone into rocks - not someone who knows nothing about the hobby. c) Because not only would it be best run by someone into rocks/lapidary etc - a member of the forum who is into rocks would be even better - because they *know* the forum. I do hope that it all comes good from within the forum - for everyone. I know its worth more than a cruddy car. I can't value it at a new car by a long shot - so somewhere is a balance. I haven't been able to place a value on it - but cars seem to be a good way of looking at things - for me at least. At the end of the day - if nobody values the site at an amount I can sit with, its not going to be like I hold a grudge or anything daft - I will just accept that the reality is a mis-match of valuation - no big issue - and I will keep it - I wouldn't just "shut it all down". If you have a value in mind, then why don't you just tell us? And, do you have different values in mind??? Say, for example, a group funding price and a personal sale price??? It would be a lot easier to come up with the money if we knew how much it was. If we tried to raise 3k for example, that would probably be doable, but if it were more, people would back out. I mean really, we only want to buy the forum on a handshake. I doubt it is even a legal purchase. Doesn't really put us in a firm position. That brings down the value. I'm sorry for being plain and blunt, but that's how I see this.
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 10:30:59 GMT -5
Wrong vehicle for this group. fixed it ETA: The forum is not what is for sale. The RTH website is. The admin rights to the forum and Facebook pages are "free" with the purchase of the web site. But, you can't have one (the forum which is what most here care about) without buying the other. I would guess that one can't "sell" admin rights. Which explains the package deal.
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RTH SALE
Jan 30, 2017 10:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 30, 2017 11:01:34 GMT -5
What does a cruddy car cost in the UK? LOL! I bought a "beater" for my daughter at 400.00. She drove it for 10 years. I was shocked that she got so many city miles out of an old Dodge Neon.
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Post by 1dave on Jan 30, 2017 11:21:15 GMT -5
If RTH survives I hope the new owner is computer savvy. I think it should be stripped of the DEADWOOD. someone who "joined" 10 years ago and never returned a single time is not really a member. How about 5 years ago? If some of them are lurkers they will continue to lurk. Dead members have to be purged from voter lists. From time to time I receive requests to use one of my posts on a rock club news letter and always allow. An active members drive could quickly replace the deadwood with active members. Perhaps start a new section dedicated to sharing Rock Club News Letters. Contact rock clubs and ask for opinions. Appoint rock club reporters. . . .
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Jan 30, 2017 11:40:07 GMT -5
I agree Dave!!! If you don't exist,you don't need your name on the members list!
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grayfingers
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Post by grayfingers on Jan 30, 2017 11:40:27 GMT -5
I don't have much to add to this discussion other than to say thanks to Mark for creating this site. It was the first web site I joined, and is still the only specific interest forum of any sort I am a member of. I read other forums when seeking information about other interests, but have never seen one besides RTH that made me want to join. RTH is as familiar to me as my morning cup of coffee, sort of like a virtual local cafe where all the old timers hang out and ...
I also have greatly appreciated Mark initially making the forum about rock tumbling and then expanding the sections through the years to encompass a great many other rock related subjects. Also grateful for the section for Member's photos and especially for the Life/Universe section. This site has been and is an unparalleled collection of rock know-how, expert advice on anything under the sun. The non rock related sections have provided many hours of thought provoking discussion with people I would never have encountered otherwise.
Concerning the possibility of members chipping in, I see we average around 125 member log-ins each day... Three grand split 125 ways is about $25...
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 11:50:10 GMT -5
Kinda curious about the several posts about culling nonactive or zero posts members.
What difference does it make? What does leaving the zero post "members" on the rolls hurt?
Seems that a higher number member count would help attract new members.
If you drive by a restaurant with a parking lot full of cars and another with no cars in the lot, which one are you likely to go in? The car sales lot next door to the full lot restaurant may be parking their overflow inventory in that restaurant's parking lot. Joe passer-by wouldn't know. But I'm betting he goes to the full lot restaurant anyway.
High member numbers may have an advantage to the forum owner, but some here seem to be bothered by nonactive names on the rolls.
Why? To free up a cool name? You want an unused (inactive) name that is already taken here? Talk with the administrator and maybe that can be worked out.
Nonactive member numbers here is what needs fretting over? Really? That high member number may be more helpful to a new owner (administrator) than the present one.
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 11:55:41 GMT -5
Concerning the possibility of members chipping in, I see we average around 125 member log-ins each day... Three grand split 125 ways is about $25... That would probably do it. Be nice if whoever the group was buying all this for chipped in the lions share as to have some skin in the game.
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