rxscram
spending too much on rocks
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Post by rxscram on Jan 30, 2017 11:57:03 GMT -5
My 2 cents... I've offered Mark $2500 for the domain (and all that comes with it), and he said:
"Hi Jeff - thankyou for your offer - I will be waiting for a while to see what else comes in offer wise as I am sure you'll appreciate.
I would like to do this faster but have to give myself a chance after all these years!"
So, it seems like he wants more than $2,500 even for an individual purchasing it. I imagine it would be hard for the group to come up with substantially more than that.
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Post by 1dave on Jan 30, 2017 11:59:17 GMT -5
captbob I feel quite strongly both ways! 8,000 is false advertising no matter how you look at it. If we claimed 100,000 members who gives a damn? A REAL members list would make it easier to find a person you want to contact.
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 12:09:19 GMT -5
So, it seems like he wants more than $2,500 even for an individual purchasing it. I imagine it would be hard for the group to come up with substantially more than that. Not so hard if whomever the group may end up playing Santa for started off the fund drive with a grand or more of his/her own "I have skin in this game" seed money.
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Post by roy on Jan 30, 2017 12:11:28 GMT -5
I don't believe this. Don is suggesting that the Mods damage what is not theirs and Tela "likes" the post. Changing the Administrative control on Proboards forums happens daily. Ya'll want to save the forum or sabotage it? The ballpark price is out there. Buy it if ya'll want to. I sure wouldn't want to (anymore), not with a membership that thinks boycotts and what amounts to vandalism is acceptable. The ends justify the means? Is that it? Who the OOPS does that sound like? criminy ... chill out there just throwing ideas around no harm no foul
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 30, 2017 12:14:52 GMT -5
PLEASE NOTE
Tommy is still up for doing a go fund me! YAY! He is working on the details now. Apparently, the price for a group funding is higher. That's just the way it goes. Everyone will be free to decide for themselves if they want to contribute and how much.
More to follow...
Tommy has a lot on his plate right now, but he is working on the proposal. The details will become available soon. This will be a Go Fund Me. The amount of the drive will be the whole asking price and no more. Tommy is going to assume full responsibility for this thing and put a lot of work into it. Hopefully, we can get LOTS of support for this!
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 12:16:00 GMT -5
chill out there just throwing ideas around no harm no foul So if someone wants to buy your house, there is no harm in their burning down the garage to lower the value before putting in an offer? Point being, it is not theirs to burn down.
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 12:17:45 GMT -5
What is the asking price?
Details to follow ... never mind
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 12:21:09 GMT -5
If Tommy gets it. I vote we have Don make him an argentium silver crown jewelled with cabs and tumbles made by all our members. Other silversmiths can also produce segments to help make an entire crown. He will deserve it as a benovelant King the the land.
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 30, 2017 12:21:36 GMT -5
If you drive by a restaurant with a parking lot full of cars and another with no cars in the lot, which one are you likely to go in? I know , what does this have to do with this thread ? And I know I may not represent the norm but I would stop at the less busy restaurant . Just thinking on my keypad , sorry .
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Post by roy on Jan 30, 2017 12:23:26 GMT -5
My 2 cents... I've offered Mark $2500 for the domain (and all that comes with it), and he said: "Hi Jeff - thankyou for your offer - I will be waiting for a while to see what else comes in offer wise as I am sure you'll appreciate. I would like to do this faster but have to give myself a chance after all these years!" So, it seems like he wants more than $2,500 even for an individual purchasing it. I imagine it would be hard for the group to come up with substantially more than that. i think he is having problems letting it go unless you get to his happy place ! mark just keep it you know you wont be happy if you dont
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 30, 2017 12:24:17 GMT -5
If you drive by a restaurant with a parking lot full of cars and another with no cars in the lot, which one are you likely to go in? I know , what does this have to do with this thread ? And I know I may not represent the norm but I would stop at the less busy restaurant . Just thinking on my keypad , sorry . I was thinking the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 12:26:35 GMT -5
What does a cruddy car cost in the UK? LOL! I bought a "beater" for my daughter at 400.00. She drove it for 10 years. I was shocked that she got so many city miles out of an old Dodge Neon. Last I checked you are in the USA! Original Admin referenced a price between beater and new car. Just trying to learn what that means to him. I suspect new cars cost more over there. Cruddy cars too perhaps.
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Don
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Post by Don on Jan 30, 2017 12:28:23 GMT -5
What's in a domain? What advantage does .com offer over say .net? If it's to drive traffic, what's to stop someone from setting up a website using www.rocktumblinghobby.club for example, filling it with the right SEO key words for google web crawlers to use for search results and then redirecting the traffic to forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/? it's not like the forum is privately hosted on Mark's own internet servers. Regarding admin control of the board, Mark should turn over the keys to the membership regardless, and we decide who becomes admin. There would be no forum, no content to drive traffic to his site, without us.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 30, 2017 12:31:11 GMT -5
What's in a domain? What advantage does .com offer over say .net? If it's to drive traffic, what's to stop someone from setting up a website using www.rocktumblinghobby.club for example, filling it with the right SEO key words for google web crawlers to use for search results and then redirecting the traffic to forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/? it's not like the forum is privately hosted on Mark's own internet servers. Regarding admin control of the board, Mark should turn over the keys to the membership regardless, and we decide who becomes admin. There would be no forum, no content to drive traffic to his site, without us. That would assume that Mark would turn over the keys. He isn't. He is giving the keys with the purchase of the domain.
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 12:38:57 GMT -5
If you drive by a restaurant with a parking lot full of cars and another with no cars in the lot, which one are you likely to go in? I know , what does this have to do with this thread ? And I know I may not represent the norm but I would stop at the less busy restaurant . Just thinking on my keypad , sorry . A higher number of cars in the parking lot may be an indication of better service and food inside. A long line to get inside a movie may indicate a better movie inside than at the theater with a short or no line. A higher membership number may be an indication of a more interesting forum. People, in general, tend to go to the place with the better reviews. Just trying to use simple correlations. Higher membership may have a value. Again, what is the downside?
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rxscram
spending too much on rocks
Member since August 2011
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Post by rxscram on Jan 30, 2017 12:39:44 GMT -5
PLEASE NOTE
Tommy is still up for doing a go fund me! YAY! He is working on the details now. Apparently, the price for a group funding is higher. That's just the way it goes. Everyone will be free to decide for themselves if they want to contribute and how much.
More to follow...
Tommy has a lot on his plate right now, but he is working on the proposal. The details will become available soon. This will be a Go Fund Me. The amount of the drive will be the whole asking price and no more. Tommy is going to assume full responsibility for this thing and put a lot of work into it. Hopefully, we can get LOTS of support for this!
I actually have a big problem with doing the "gofundme" approach. I think it results in too many cooks in the kitchen. The only way I see a group working is if a few select people team up. Then it would be more of a "board of directors" rather than a mob of interested parties.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 30, 2017 12:47:31 GMT -5
rxscram A group purchase doesn't mean that everyone who contributed would have equal responsibility. Tommy has agreed to take on all of the responsibility. The goal is to keep the site running as is, with room for improvement. As an example of what could be done- say he made a change that people found disagreeable, the board could petition as a whole to stop it. Or, the group could petition for a change. I'm not saying that's how it would be, but it could be. I agree that too many cooks is the wrong way to go- that's why he has agreed to take this on. If you look at this thread, it is easy to see that that may not be the easiest thing in thing in the world to do. He is working on a plan that will hopefully work for everyone.
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Don
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He wants you too, Malachi.
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Post by Don on Jan 30, 2017 12:49:56 GMT -5
What's in a domain? What advantage does .com offer over say .net? If it's to drive traffic, what's to stop someone from setting up a website using www.rocktumblinghobby.club for example, filling it with the right SEO key words for google web crawlers to use for search results and then redirecting the traffic to forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/? it's not like the forum is privately hosted on Mark's own internet servers. Regarding admin control of the board, Mark should turn over the keys to the membership regardless, and we decide who becomes admin. There would be no forum, no content to drive traffic to his site, without us. That would assume that Mark would turn over the keys. He isn't. He is giving the keys with the purchase of the domain. Which I find absolutely absurd. The forum and the rocktumblinghobby.com domain are two completely separate entities. Pro boards owns forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/.
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Post by jakesrocks on Jan 30, 2017 12:57:49 GMT -5
I seem to have stirred up a hornets nest with my comment about dumping deadbeat members. Good. Got people thinking & talking. Now I'm just gonna sit back & read the comments. If we decide in the end to pool money to buy the forum, I'm good for $100.00, just to see it continue for future & present active members. If it were for the deadbeats, I wouldn't contribute $.02. Nuff said.
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Post by captbob on Jan 30, 2017 13:15:01 GMT -5
Don, I believe the suggestion to dump "deadbeat members" is fine. Still not sure why it matters though.
But to suggest that the Mods here do so behind the owner's back and without permission, for the sake of possibly lowering the perceived value of this forum is basically advocating vandalism - maybe there is a more proper legal word for it.
You have always been one of the folks here that I most closely identify with as far as our views on "stuff", but I think that your suggestion could be damaging to what is essentially Mark's property. That is kinda rude.
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