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Post by jamesp on Jun 23, 2018 12:03:40 GMT -5
I am working on yet another technique for the glass cabs. I used to do stained glass work. Yup, the copper tape, lead pieces to encase each piece of glass, the soldering, etc. Today I am working on a glass cab and a rock cab. Making bails from copper wire. Wrapping each victim in the copper tape on the edges and to conceal where the bail is glued to the victim. I use the term victim, as I never know how anything is going to turn out until complete. If all else fails, I can use acetone to remove the bail and epoxy. The tape should come off easy. Wish me luck. Ok then, using some stained glass techniques. I get it. Entrapping the victim. You are constantly pulling rabbits from your hat. |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 23, 2018 12:13:07 GMT -5
Hey, I am an artist who has always been very creative. I once was given a photo a friend took of a sunset by a dam. An island in the photo. Lots of blues and purples. I created a painting from it, but was unhappy with the first attempt using just paints. A lot of the detail in the trees and lake weeds were lost. I did it again, using India ink and a pen for the details. That technique became my go to for details. Will try to find that painting, as I still have it. One of my best works. Was offered $250.00 for it and said no. That was a lot of money for me while in HS.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 23, 2018 12:26:06 GMT -5
I get what you guys are saying about certain color combinations, for a racing jet ski I did black and red on yellow.
More of a man's thing but those 3 made a mean look. Good on cars because the black tires play into the combination.
Ha, you guys can compliment my wife 10:1 but I am spoiled rotten here. Overly petted and ruined lol. It's great.
OK, a big score on the spearhead slabs.
I posted them this morning on the flint knapping forum and am getting run over with interest.
Getting pounded. Guess I need to use paypal (he he).
Master knapper Stan gave me consultation and said I can ask top dollar on the glass less one exception - bubbles.
I got to solve the bubble problem as it can throw the chipping process off in a hurry. There are ways. Got some learning to do.
Stan been doing this knapping thing for generations and says there ain't nothing like this glass ever been on the market.
So maybe a market has been found. And the spears are darn cool.
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Post by fernwood on Jun 23, 2018 13:02:15 GMT -5
Great news. Am sure the bubbles will soon disappear.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jun 23, 2018 15:46:36 GMT -5
I get what you guys are saying about certain color combinations, for a racing jet ski I did black and red on yellow. More of a man's thing but those 3 made a mean look. Good on cars because the black tires play into the combination. Ha, you guys can compliment my wife 10:1 but I am spoiled rotten here. Overly petted and ruined lol. It's great. OK, a big score on the spearhead slabs. I posted them this morning on the flint knapping forum and am getting run over with interest. Getting pounded. Guess I need to use paypal (he he). Master knapper Stan gave me consultation and said I can ask top dollar on the glass less one exception - bubbles. I got to solve the bubble problem as it can throw the chipping process off in a hurry. There are ways. Got some learning to do. Stan been doing this knapping thing for generations and says there ain't nothing like this glass ever been on the market. So maybe a market has been found. And the spears are darn cool. That is awesome news! I'm sure you'll figure out the bubble-be-gone formula in no time. Pick the brains of your hot glass pals, too.  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 4:34:19 GMT -5
Oh well. The bubbles were a buzz kill. They ran for the hills when the bubble issue bubbled up lol.
The knappers are a weary bunch. I may have gotten written off in one fell swoop.
What goes up....spinnin wheel
No matter, slabs to pendants if necessary.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 4:52:42 GMT -5
Melt slab for today(another on shelf below). Both are new methods. Bottom shelf is colored glass stringers in recycled clear glass chunks. New arrangement. This is top shelf. 1.5 to 2 inch shards on edge. Should have significant flow distortion as pile spreads out to 1/4" thick melt slab. Sort of a low height pot melt. Should be able to chop slab in bi-color and tri-color pendants. May be more like 4 or 5 color/pendant unit.   Must have 1000 pounds of clear glass chunks. The blower had his crew salvage the clear glass for re-melt for years. Then the glass manufacturer changed the properties of the glass and all this glass they sorted became incompatible for the new glass, ouch. One man's loss another man's gain. Screened, cleaned and drying in stainless colanders on the stove top in preparation for melt slab. Ready to add your own colors. Doing a University of Georgia slab, clear glass with black and red stringers.  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 4:57:20 GMT -5
Hey, I am an artist who has always been very creative. I once was given a photo a friend took of a sunset by a dam. An island in the photo. Lots of blues and purples. I created a painting from it, but was unhappy with the first attempt using just paints. A lot of the detail in the trees and lake weeds were lost. I did it again, using India ink and a pen for the details. That technique became my go to for details. Will try to find that painting, as I still have it. One of my best works. Was offered $250.00 for it and said no. That was a lot of money for me while in HS. Photo please. Painting to me is one of the purest forms of art. Watching a sketch artist, simply amazing. Envious of those folks. |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 24, 2018 5:18:20 GMT -5
Hey, I am an artist who has always been very creative. I once was given a photo a friend took of a sunset by a dam. An island in the photo. Lots of blues and purples. I created a painting from it, but was unhappy with the first attempt using just paints. A lot of the detail in the trees and lake weeds were lost. I did it again, using India ink and a pen for the details. That technique became my go to for details. Will try to find that painting, as I still have it. One of my best works. Was offered $250.00 for it and said no. That was a lot of money for me while in HS. Photo please. Painting to me is one of the purest forms of art. Watching a sketch artist, simply amazing. Envious of those folks. Here's a couple of pencil/charcoal drawings I did of one of my horses and my dog. They were both done looking at photos. Will try to find the painting and get a photo of it.   |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 5:26:55 GMT -5
Photo please. Painting to me is one of the purest forms of art. Watching a sketch artist, simply amazing. Envious of those folks. Here's a couple of pencil/charcoal drawings I did of one of my horses and my dog. They were both done looking at photos. Will try to find the painting and get a photo of it. View AttachmentView AttachmentGreen w/envy. CANNOT draw or paint. Yes, engineering drawings but not objects. Impressive Beth. At ease disease, we have a fungus(artist) among us. The human mind is amazing. |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 24, 2018 5:32:44 GMT -5
Will find/post some photos of paintings under off topic when it gets light enough for me to take photos. To me all forms of art are relaxing. Here's a Cardinal.  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 6:21:04 GMT -5
Will find/post some photos of paintings under off topic when it gets light enough for me to take photos. To me all forms of art are relaxing. Here's a Cardinal. View AttachmentYep. I have escaped the world lately doing this glass thing. Developed some temporary insanity in sorts and laughing about it before it gets out of hand. Had to do a wake up call a few weeks back and hook up w/old friends to do a reset. Reset almost complete, still about the same as before the glass came along he he. BUT, I am now educated on a whole bunch of glass tricks. So the trip was well worth it. Things were getting a bit maniacal. I had opportunities to travel to distant places and found myself further than the other side of the earth right here at home. No substitute for an insane imagination. Cardinal is exceptional. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 6:28:01 GMT -5
This thing turned out. I see a handkerchief vase slumped out of this plate( MsAli) It is on the verge of brown out, too much color mixing with too many different colors can easily go brown on you. shard pile before  shard pile after(colors still darkish as it is at 700F)   |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 24, 2018 7:10:45 GMT -5
The last one would make a cool slump dish for salsa. With those colors, you would never know when the salsa was gone.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 24, 2018 7:27:29 GMT -5
Oh well. The bubbles were a buzz kill. They ran for the hills when the bubble issue bubbled up lol. The knappers are a weary bunch. I may have gotten written off in one fell swoop. What goes up....spinnin wheel No matter, slabs to pendants if necessary. As I have never fused glass in a kiln before, take thus for what it is worth. A quick bit of Google searching gave a few reasons for air bubbles, and some tips for avoiding them. Are you holding at top temp for 20 minutes or so to allow all the bubbles in the melted glass to escape? You probably are. Just wondering what the solution is. Somehow overcome the bubble problem, and the knappers are back on the table. There has got to be an answer. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 8:03:39 GMT -5
The last one would make a cool slump dish for salsa. With those colors, you would never know when the salsa was gone. Got some slumping forms somewhere from a junk buy out. May just end up doing a dish or vase, hmmm. |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 24, 2018 8:10:45 GMT -5
Figured your sense of humor might appreciate this one. The never ending salsa dish. Or is it?
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 8:15:38 GMT -5
Oh well. The bubbles were a buzz kill. They ran for the hills when the bubble issue bubbled up lol. The knappers are a weary bunch. I may have gotten written off in one fell swoop. What goes up....spinnin wheel No matter, slabs to pendants if necessary. As I have never fused glass in a kiln before, take thus for what it is worth. A quick bit of Google searching gave a few reasons for air bubbles, and some tips for avoiding them. Are you holding at top temp for 20 minutes or so to allow all the bubbles in the melted glass to escape? You probably are. Just wondering what the solution is. Somehow overcome the bubble problem, and the knappers are back on the table. There has got to be an answer. problems: hard glass that has already seen 2200F which decreases flow, increases viscosity shards stacked are air catcher/trappers solutions: yep, longer hold at highest temp(done, using 30 minutes), but an hour would be a good move. Higher temp, since this is recycle and has seen 2200F, increase from 1500F to 1575 maybe 1600. You may boil it at those temps = many more bubbles smaller pieces thinner slab OK Jean, I could open the kiln at max temp and stir the glass. Yes changes pattern but can assist bubbles coming to top. I have opened it at 1200F baking eye moisture and scorching hand/arm in seconds, best wear protection. 1500F certainly wear protection Possibly re-melt, that particular color rich slab would probably have serious color mix at re-melt and turn into big brown patty turd. Some knappers use 'abo' techniques. (Aboriginal) and don't use a jig, like Native man used. They would be OK with the bubbles. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 8:16:54 GMT -5
Figured your sense of humor might appreciate this one. The never ending salsa dish. Or is it? Mysteries abound. Better salsa than vomit  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 24, 2018 8:19:43 GMT -5
Well, that was the easiest melt slab I ever made. I have enough glass to do about 5000 more of them.
If I was buying new glass I would go broke.
I will have to do a mono- or bi- or tri -color next time.
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