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Post by jamesp on Sept 10, 2018 9:48:30 GMT -5
I had to cover my eyes for the brunette 1dave.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 10, 2018 10:02:07 GMT -5
Just happened to run across this. Have you been here? Maybe you can clean out their yellow stock.
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Post by 1dave on Sept 10, 2018 10:09:28 GMT -5
I had to cover my eyes for the brunette 1dave. I wrote "LISTEN." Lots of other tracks.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 10, 2018 11:37:54 GMT -5
Just happened to run across this. Have you been here? Maybe you can clean out their yellow stock. Very much appreciate the contact. The place just up the road from home is similar to Armstrong Robin. Big operation called Hollander's. I have a pretty nice discount wholesale account there because of all that glass I got from them. Like it dropped me down 2 brackets in buying wholesale, could never beat it. My supply is as good as it gets but of course it is still fairly expensive. The good thing about the knapper glass is it does not have to be the newest and most stylish. Hollander's has a lot of older colors discounted that are nicer than the import colors I got. Apparently glass artists really stick with the trending colors. I just could not have found a better customer than the knapper's basically. Those guys like older style colors and patterns than the fast moving jewelry business. Most glass artists would cringe at gambling 12 pounds of art glass into a brick because of the cost and potential for failure. Ends up the way the glass mixes and patterns out in a brick the color becomes much less of an issue. This giant load of glass has put me in a great position to get an education on molds because it cost so little. I really should be doing classes. The glass blowers roll in the cash doing classes. I even have a spacious barn and a interesting farm environment for classes. Plenty of glass, it's all here. Thanks again.
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Post by 1dave on Sept 10, 2018 12:47:10 GMT -5
Build a barn auditorium with a kiln in the center. Hold Classes every three days for finished work.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 10, 2018 21:18:22 GMT -5
I had to cover my eyes for the brunette 1dave . I wrote "LISTEN." Lots of other tracks.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 11, 2018 2:56:48 GMT -5
Build a barn auditorium with a kiln in the center. Hold Classes every three days for finished work. The glass blower's are constantly having demonstrations and date-night. Many work at night in the summer time. Always a festive atmosphere.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 11, 2018 2:58:12 GMT -5
I wrote "LISTEN." Lots of other tracks. She was a bit of a distraction....
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Post by fernwood on Sept 11, 2018 5:17:20 GMT -5
I am thinking that the most recent flames would make a beautiful carved rose.
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Post by NRG on Sept 11, 2018 10:10:15 GMT -5
Food for thought
Re: Density
Consider slightly lower melt temp allows it to melt to bottom first.
Consider lower viscosity at same melt temp, flows faster.
Or density as you already describe.
Or a combination of all three, perhaps.
Just food for thought
Love this thread. Thanks for the eye candy
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Post by jamesp on Sept 11, 2018 15:18:45 GMT -5
Food for thought Re: Density Consider slightly lower melt temp allows it to melt to bottom first. Consider lower viscosity at same melt temp, flows faster. Or density as you already describe. Or a combination of all three, perhaps. Just food for thought Love this thread. Thanks for the eye candy John is a master glass man Scott. Check out his 'softer' comment. I am not sure I agree totally, I prefer your combination theory.
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Post by NRG on Sept 11, 2018 19:26:50 GMT -5
jamespI agree that is a complicated system. Likely many factors contributing to these results.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 12, 2018 4:52:11 GMT -5
jamespI agree that is a complicated system. Likely many factors contributing to these results. It may help to know that the brick is held at 1250F for 2 hours to slowly collapse the glass. Then it is held at full liquid melt at 1475F for 1.5 hours. No doubt the glass is thick like syrup at 1475F(full liquid melt) because there is humps over the flame colored glass where the top of the brick did not settle dead flat like water would. But nonetheless it was held at a syrup for a long time and the opal colors rose toward the top. This long hold time pretty much gaurentees that the burgundy glass is denser and the yellow/orange is less dense. I am going to conclude density difference had the biggest role. This brick used the same orange and yellow. Also the exact same temp schedule. However the matrix is (IMO the same density) black opal. Note the total lack of movement of the orange and yellow. This melt tells that the "supposedly" denser burgundy is also less thick than the other colors melted because it is the thinnest color strip in this melt slab. It is by far the thinnest part of this slab and all colors were an equal 3 layers of glass sheet. So the plot thickens, but I think density is the controlling factor. You can see a divot at 6 inches where the burgundy settled lowest:
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Post by jamesp on Sept 12, 2018 5:55:47 GMT -5
Ultimate kiln controller. Has a 50 amp female receptacle to plug any 240VAC kiln into it, has a 50 amp cable w/50 amp male plug coming out to plug into wall receptacle. Third wire is a thermocouple on a 6 foot wire. Simply plug any 220VAC kiln w/50 amp plug into it, plug other cable into wall socket. Stick thermocouple into small hole in kiln and presto - computer controlled kiln. Allows turning a pottery kiln into a ramp/hold computer controlled glass kiln for near infinite temperature ramp/hold schedules. Found on EBAY unused for $350. So it would allow running the 20 hour heat schedule and then could be removed to another kiln to start another 20 hour cook while the first kiln cools for the needed 2 days. Run 2 or 3 kilns with one controller.
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Post by NRG on Sept 12, 2018 14:16:40 GMT -5
You aren't ramping down under control?
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Post by jamesp on Sept 13, 2018 16:02:50 GMT -5
You aren't ramping down under control? Yes Scott, forced ramp up and down. The both of them only take 20 hours. The cool down after 800F is full ramp down so it can be unplugged at 800F. For a thick brick cooling with door closed and heat off takes 2 days. A standard thickness plate can be baked up/down in 12, then cooled in 12, so 24 hours. Can do way more tonnage doing 4 shelves of plates every 24 hours than 2 big bricks every 3 days. I have another used kiln..taller. It could do 3 shelves of two 13 pound bricks if the clients want to start bullying me with lots of orders. It is a $2800 pottery kiln used for $400, and the controller was $1100 bought used/new for $350. So for $750 for more capacity in case demand increases or some bigger market was found. juzwuz is interested in trading some sphere stock for a sphere. Me very interested.
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Post by NRG on Sept 13, 2018 16:32:13 GMT -5
Justin will get it done. I won't. Lol
I'd pay for a blank though. No bullying though.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 14, 2018 4:31:02 GMT -5
Got a yellow-orange-red-black pot melt(left) and a 'biaxial pyramidal torque flow twist melt'(my description he he) ready to remove late tonight. The BPTFTM should have extreme twisting and distortion. Pot melt pot looks like pot on right, single large hole Close up of BPTFTM - biaxial pyramidal torque flow twist melt:
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Post by jamesp on Sept 14, 2018 4:38:01 GMT -5
Justin will get it done. I won't. Lol I'd pay for a blank though. No bullying though. I'll have to check ability on a 3 to 4 inch thick brick. I will have to increase anneal substantially. Some color mixes are totally stable at 2 1/2 inches thick. You must consider opaque or transparent. Opaque will look best with frontal light. Transparent colors in a chunk as thick as a sphere will look black unless you use glass that is only slightly tinted and you back light with powerful source light. I would go with opaque colors personally due to thickness of glass. Bullying ?
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Post by jamesp on Sept 14, 2018 5:36:13 GMT -5
Weekly trade with master Willie Jester out of Arkadelphia. The 3 with fine swirl banding are from brick. The others from melt slab. The fine banded glass has much higher possibility of failure do to so many intersections of different glass. CAN NOT use my dark cobalt blue or opal white or breakage occurs. The ability to melt 19 colors of glass together and maintain good mechanical integrity at every junction is a true testimony to the high quality of this(China made he he) glass. It appears I may be traveling to pick up rejected Hot Mix glass from other parts of the country. No one wants it and everyone hates using it. Lots of it sitting in the backrooms of glass artists. Not many do brick casting though.
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