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Post by mohs on May 25, 2021 15:06:46 GMT -5
'noenphiliaveritas
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Post by stephan on Jul 2, 2021 9:32:06 GMT -5
Happy World UFO Day (I suppose we should now call it UAP Day). There are two versions of this Holiday:
24 June: The date aviator Kenneth Arnold reported seeing what many consider to be the first widely reported UFO sighting 02 July: Commemorates the date of the supposed Roswell Incident in 1947
"The best proof that there is intelligent life in outer space is the fact that it hasn't come here."
-- Arthur C. Clarke
🛸🛸🛸
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 2, 2021 9:34:36 GMT -5
Happy World UFO Day (I suppose we should now call it UAP Day). There are two versions of this Holiday: 24 June: The date aviator Kenneth Arnold reported seeing what many consider to be the first widely reported UFO sighting 02 July: Commemorates the date of the supposed Roswell Incident in 1947 "The best proof that there is intelligent life in outer space is the fact that it hasn't come here." -- Arthur C. Clarke 🛸🛸🛸 Love the quote!
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Post by stephan on Aug 21, 2021 15:39:52 GMT -5
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Post by mohs on Aug 21, 2021 16:34:48 GMT -5
honey bees lv lalalantana's flowers everywhere ...some folks won't care for this they may have bee in their bonnet
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Post by stephan on Aug 21, 2021 19:20:53 GMT -5
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 28, 2021 3:28:21 GMT -5
It seems that every day of the year has at least one, but usually several, odd holidays associated with it. Let's pay homage to some of them.
For example, today (04 Oct, 2018) is National Taco Day Yesterday was Virus Appreciation Day
Will virus appreciation day be celebrated this year? Sounds a little dark under the current circumstances.
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Post by stephan on Aug 28, 2021 10:21:46 GMT -5
It seems that every day of the year has at least one, but usually several, odd holidays associated with it. Let's pay homage to some of them.
For example, today (04 Oct, 2018) is National Taco Day Yesterday was Virus Appreciation Day
Will virus appreciation day be celebrated this year? Sounds a little dark under the current circumstances. Indeed, either we’ll have to be specific about which viruses we appreciate (phages specific to E. coli, for example), or “appreciate” in the sense that implies respect for what they are capable of doing.
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Post by parfive on Aug 28, 2021 12:51:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I can hear ‘em now over in the ICU . . .
Two, four, six, eight, we don’t like to intubate. That’s why we appreciate all the folk that vaccinate.
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 28, 2021 13:07:05 GMT -5
Will virus appreciation day be celebrated this year? Sounds a little dark under the current circumstances. Indeed, either we’ll have to be specific about which viruses we appreciate (phages specific to E. coli, for example), or “appreciate” in the sense that implies respect for what they are capable of doing. I'm not convinced. Sounds to me a little like:
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 28, 2021 13:25:29 GMT -5
Will virus appreciation day be celebrated this year? Sounds a little dark under the current circumstances. Indeed, either we’ll have to be specific about which viruses we appreciate (phages specific to E. coli, for example), or “appreciate” in the sense that implies respect for what they are capable of doing. I'd prefer bacteria appreciation day, frankly. We could celebrate the origins of mitochondrial DNA. And the fact that microorganisms outnumber cells in the human body by at least a factor of 10 to 1, and without which, our digestive system would not function. Or one of my favorites, the plant-fungal-bacterial relationship that allows plants to access soil nutrients. So much to appreciate. Viruses bring a lot less to the table.
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Post by stephan on Aug 28, 2021 23:05:40 GMT -5
holajonathan parfive We are, indeed, quite dependent on our microbiomes, and just now discovering how true that is. Fungi are simply amazing, and under-appreciated. The fact that that they act as the forest’s nervous system, allowing trees to communicate with each other, and to share nutrients with other trees, boggles the mind. Plus, the fruiting bodies of many are delicious, nutritious, or medically or otherwise useful is another plus. Virii, however, are also amazingly useful. There are about 380 trillion living in our bodies (10x the number of the bacteria that outnumber our cells 10:1), and many protect us from pathogenic virii and bacteria. So, in addition to a microbiome, we also have a virome. They are often our best defense against antibiotic resistant bacteria (especially “flesh-eating” staph or Methicillin-resistant TB). Bacteriophages really are a huge part of the reason we are alive. Some virii also aid in digestion. Some have integrated into our genomes, creating the introns/exons that prevent attack from some other micro-organisms, and promote cryptic gene expression, which allows 25k genes to code for 400,000 proteins. That is amazing efficiency.
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Post by HankRocks on Aug 29, 2021 8:14:23 GMT -5
holajonathan parfive We are, indeed, quite dependent on our microbiomes, and just now discovering how true that is. Fungi are simply amazing, and under-appreciated. The fact that that they act as the forest’s nervous system, allowing trees to communicate with each other, and to share nutrients with other trees, boggles the mind. Plus, the fruiting bodies of many are delicious, nutritious, or medically or otherwise useful is another plus. Virii, however, are also amazingly useful. There are about 380 trillion living in our bodies (10x the number of the bacteria that outnumber our cells 10:1), and many protect us from pathogenic virii and bacteria. So, in addition to a microbiome, we also have a virome. They are often our best defense against antibiotic resistant bacteria (especially “flesh-eating” staph or Methicillin-resistant TB). Bacteriophages really are a huge part of the reason we are alive. Some virii also aid in digestion. Some have integrated into our genomes, creating the introns/exons that prevent attack from some other micro-organisms, and promote cryptic gene expression, which allows 25k genes to code for 400,000 proteins. That is amazing efficiency. Attended a couple of Parkinson's Seminars and at both there was a presentation on the Microbiome. Really interesting discussion. There is some thought that there is a relation between the lack of Dopamine in the brain, main cause of Parkinson's and to something not being produced in sufficient quantities by all of these Bacteria. Really interesting stuff and an area of on-going research. There is a growing understanding that some of the anti-biotics being prescribed are harmful to our natural Biome.
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 30, 2021 0:49:35 GMT -5
holajonathan parfive We are, indeed, quite dependent on our microbiomes, and just now discovering how true that is. Fungi are simply amazing, and under-appreciated. The fact that that they act as the forest’s nervous system, allowing trees to communicate with each other, and to share nutrients with other trees, boggles the mind. Plus, the fruiting bodies of many are delicious, nutritious, or medically or otherwise useful is another plus. Virii, however, are also amazingly useful. There are about 380 trillion living in our bodies (10x the number of the bacteria that outnumber our cells 10:1), and many protect us from pathogenic virii and bacteria. So, in addition to a microbiome, we also have a virome. They are often our best defense against antibiotic resistant bacteria (especially “flesh-eating” staph or Methicillin-resistant TB). Bacteriophages really are a huge part of the reason we are alive. Some virii also aid in digestion. Some have integrated into our genomes, creating the introns/exons that prevent attack from some other micro-organisms, and promote cryptic gene expression, which allows 25k genes to code for 400,000 proteins. That is amazing efficiency. Good info. I've read lots about the fungal systems of forests, as my other great passion besides rocks is gardening -- more specifically, developing fungal dominated soil that mimics what is going on in the forest. I've read a little about our microbiome. But until now, I didn't even know we had a virome. Perhaps this is cutting edge stuff? I don't recall any mention of it the last time I took a human biology class -- about 20 years ago. To the extent virii encode proteins that hi-jack mitochondria to facilitate replication, we have a virus infecting an organelle, that was probably once an independent bacteria before it was engulfed by and developed a symbiotic relationship with eukaryotic cells. It's like there's a virus vs. bacteria war going on inside our cells, which for some reason made me think of one one the great movies of all time: Alien vs. Predator. No need to elaborate about the "otherwise" usefulness of mushrooms. I know what you guys do out there in California. P.S. I'm still not celebrating virus day this year.
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 30, 2021 0:59:43 GMT -5
stephan Me feeling kind of sad that there are 380 trillion virii in my body.
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Post by stephan on Aug 30, 2021 1:20:04 GMT -5
No need to elaborate about the "otherwise" usefulness of mushrooms. I know what you guys do out there in California. You might have us confused with Oregon (Portland, Eugene…). Last winter we didn’t even have enough rain to get any lawn or mulch pile mushrooms, which I usually love to photograph. if we get any rain after all these fires, the morel hunters ought to be happy.
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Post by stephan on Aug 30, 2021 1:31:57 GMT -5
stephan Me feeling kind of sad that there are 380 trillion virii in my body. LOL
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 30, 2021 14:46:38 GMT -5
No need to elaborate about the "otherwise" usefulness of mushrooms. I know what you guys do out there in California. You might have us confused with Oregon (Portland, Eugene…). Last winter we didn’t even have enough rain to get any lawn or mulch pile mushrooms, which I usually love to photograph. if we get any rain after all these fires, the morel hunters ought to be happy. I could be confused. I thought the whole "left coast" was full of drug-addled PhD's. (As opposed to the drug-addled GEDs where I live.) You should see the compost pile shrooms I've got growing. They pop up every time it rains. My whole garden is often covered in mushrooms since it is full of buried logs and wood chips. The fungi really love willow and poplar wood. They have low concentrations of lignin and hemicellulose -- the most difficult compounds in wood for bacteria and fungii to decompose -- and high concentration of polysaccharides, which is exactly what fungii need to grow.
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Post by stephan on Aug 30, 2021 23:09:07 GMT -5
You might have us confused with Oregon (Portland, Eugene…). Last winter we didn’t even have enough rain to get any lawn or mulch pile mushrooms, which I usually love to photograph. if we get any rain after all these fires, the morel hunters ought to be happy. I could be confused. I thought the whole "left coast" was full of drug-addled PhD's. (As opposed to the drug-addled GEDs where I live.) You should see the compost pile shrooms I've got growing. They pop up every time it rains. My whole garden is often covered in mushrooms since it is full of buried logs and wood chips. The fungi really love willow and poplar wood. They have low concentrations of lignin and hemicellulose -- the most difficult compounds in wood for bacteria and fungii to decompose -- and high concentration of polysaccharides, which is exactly what fungii need to grow. Oregon is the only state to have legalized them. California has two cities: Santa Cruz (shocking, I know) and Oakland. Surprisingly, Berzerkeley (which borders on Oakland) and SF haven’t. I've grown shiitake, maitake, lion’s mane and oyster mushrooms. I grew them on birch chips, which is similar. I’ve been on a forage outing, back when we got some of that… what did you call? Rain? That’s water falling out of the sky, right? Anyway, we found a few edible varieties: russula and boletes, mainly. One person found lion’s mane and witch’s butter. when I worked at the winery, the enolgist was a forager, and had his secret chanterelle spots. He gave me some candy caps once, which smell and taste like maple syrup. Wild mushroom cookies were a definite potluck hit.
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 31, 2021 2:19:00 GMT -5
I could be confused. I thought the whole "left coast" was full of drug-addled PhD's. (As opposed to the drug-addled GEDs where I live.) You should see the compost pile shrooms I've got growing. They pop up every time it rains. My whole garden is often covered in mushrooms since it is full of buried logs and wood chips. The fungi really love willow and poplar wood. They have low concentrations of lignin and hemicellulose -- the most difficult compounds in wood for bacteria and fungii to decompose -- and high concentration of polysaccharides, which is exactly what fungii need to grow. Oregon is the only state to have legalized them. California has two cities: Santa Cruz (shocking, I know) and Oakland. Surprisingly, Berzerkeley (which borders on Oakland) and SF haven’t. I've grown shiitake, maitake, lion’s mane and oyster mushrooms. I grew them on birch chips, which is similar. I’ve been on a forage outing, back when we got some of that… what did you call? Rain? That’s water falling out of the sky, right? Anyway, we found a few edible varieties: russula and boletes, mainly. One person found lion’s mane and witch’s butter. when I worked at the winery, the enolgist was a forager, and had his secret chanterelle spots. He gave me some candy caps once, which smell and taste like maple syrup. Wild mushroom cookies were a definite potluck hit. Good for them (Oregon). I couldn't care less if people want to eat hallucinogenic mushrooms. And I don't want my tax dollars to go to persecuting or imprisoning them. Oakland apparently makes the inane distinction between consuming 'shrooms (legal) and selling them (illegal). I guess you have to grow your own? Easier said than done for most people. On the plus side, we get to enjoy stories like this....
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