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Post by jamesp on Feb 13, 2018 10:25:33 GMT -5
"Men make it complicated...women are easy." Broken rib from laughing too hard MsAli. -or- Indeed(in a very patronizing tone and wanting to pet her head).
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Post by MsAli on Feb 13, 2018 11:29:21 GMT -5
"Men make it complicated...women are easy." Broken rib from laughing too hard MsAli . -or- Indeed(in a very patronizing tone and wanting to pet her head).
Funny man
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Post by jamesp on Feb 13, 2018 13:09:03 GMT -5
"Men make it complicated...women are easy." Broken rib from laughing too hard MsAli . -or- Indeed(in a very patronizing tone and wanting to pet her head).
Funny man
In real life I do try to stay away from gender discussions unless seeking an amusing retaliation. Take pleasure in being poked at regarding my (all male)gender and rarely take it as an insult. By the same token I like to dish it too. Never knew you were a blonde till I saw your avatar. You mentioned perception, perhaps I will see thru biased eyes after said discovery. You seem wily in every sense of the word though.
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Post by MsAli on Feb 13, 2018 14:01:00 GMT -5
In real life I do try to stay away from gender discussions unless seeking an amusing retaliation. Take pleasure in being poked at regarding my (all male)gender and rarely take it as an insult. By the same token I like to dish it too. Never knew you were a blonde till I saw your avatar. You mentioned perception, perhaps I will see thru biased eyes after said discovery. You seem wily in every sense of the word though. I take no offense to anything I love good (I was gonna say poking but that aint right) ribbing?
Biased eyes? HHmmm somehow I think you wont.....and if you do, well c'est la vie
Wiley..oh yes, I will not deny that,......I am rather witty too
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Post by oregon on Feb 13, 2018 17:11:15 GMT -5
Not that advanced yet oregon. Only fused a few times. The bricks do have a few bubbles. I have not tumble polished any of the pieces I have fused. Hope they tumble well. I do a fairly standard heat schedule for this type of glass. I do need to raise the heat a bit to melt the top flatter. My kiln has a small chamber with a lot of coils so it is great for bricks. Looking forward to mixing and trying all kinds of things. You might research kiln casting. Here are a couple bullseye schedules, they look like a 24 hr process vs shorter fusing a few layers.. www.bullseyeglass.com/images/stories/bullseye/PDF/TipSheets/tipsheet_08.pdf www.bullseyeglass.com/images/stories/bullseye/PDF/TipSheets/tipsheet_05.pdf I think the deal is glass is a poor heat conductor, takes a while to get in, and out... Cut a brick see how it looks inside. If you cut and restack you can make some cool symmetrical patterns anyway. (Cleaning cuts etc before firing is a good idea) either that, or just try holding one of your bricks at high temp for twice as long, see how it looks. Bubbles could be a great feature, but imagine a pain tumbling too. They usually migrate slowly, I think that's why the pot melt avenue is popular.
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Post by rjbud1 on Feb 13, 2018 19:28:24 GMT -5
This morning's brick a bit more subversive in colors and patterns. Reptile skin, eyes, blood spatters, etc. Halloween and darker type jewelry. Wife picked a yellow/green theme. She says it will be the best of all of them. Customer's opinions rule, will see. Teal is hot at this time. I like it, both the halloween and the yellow ish glass
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2018 3:56:22 GMT -5
Thanks rjbud1, something about collecting colors of solid shiny pieces of anything. The glass is manipulatable by melting and cutting to reveal viewing angles using lapidary equipment making for so many variations. Has me captivated. Welcome to the forum, hope you have a great time here.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2018 4:21:39 GMT -5
Not that advanced yet oregon. Only fused a few times. The bricks do have a few bubbles. I have not tumble polished any of the pieces I have fused. Hope they tumble well. I do a fairly standard heat schedule for this type of glass. I do need to raise the heat a bit to melt the top flatter. My kiln has a small chamber with a lot of coils so it is great for bricks. Looking forward to mixing and trying all kinds of things. You might research kiln casting. Here are a couple bullseye schedules, they look like a 24 hr process vs shorter fusing a few layers.. www.bullseyeglass.com/images/stories/bullseye/PDF/TipSheets/tipsheet_08.pdf www.bullseyeglass.com/images/stories/bullseye/PDF/TipSheets/tipsheet_05.pdf I think the deal is glass is a poor heat conductor, takes a while to get in, and out... Cut a brick see how it looks inside. If you cut and restack you can make some cool symmetrical patterns anyway. (Cleaning cuts etc before firing is a good idea) either that, or just try holding one of your bricks at high temp for twice as long, see how it looks. Bubbles could be a great feature, but imagine a pain tumbling too. They usually migrate slowly, I think that's why the pot melt avenue is popular. I have been using a slow schedule for the bricks oregon. I have about a ton of Spectrum 96 scrap glass from the glass blowers. I am using a long Spectrum Glass heat schedule, stretched out to 19 hours for these thick bricks. 12 hour schedules ain't gonna work for such thick fusing. So far nary a crack after cooling. Bubbles here and there a non-issue so far. I do need to go about 25F higher and hold 20 instead of 10 minutes to get a flatter cap on the brick. But it dose not matter about the cap so much since the bricks get hammered and sawn into smalls. I have tumbled some fused USA art glass found in thrift stores. I had to tumble it successfully before investing in a kiln. Probably Spectrum or Bullseye. It seems to tumble like most other glass. A good bit softer than machine blown glass though. Anal about washing. I have been putting the glass to be melted into a 5 gallon bucket 2/3rds full of water and sticking a pressure washer nozzle in the water and "turbulating" it. The glass gets a seriously violent washing that way. Or tumble it for a couple of days and then 'turbulate'. Building another larger kiln that will allow pot melts, the 'brick' kiln is just too small.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2018 9:38:56 GMT -5
In real life I do try to stay away from gender discussions unless seeking an amusing retaliation. Take pleasure in being poked at regarding my (all male)gender and rarely take it as an insult. By the same token I like to dish it too. Never knew you were a blonde till I saw your avatar. You mentioned perception, perhaps I will see thru biased eyes after said discovery. You seem wily in every sense of the word though. I take no offense to anything I love good (I was gonna say poking but that aint right) ribbing?
Biased eyes? HHmmm somehow I think you wont.....and if you do, well c'est la vie
Wiley..oh yes, I will not deny that,......I am rather witty too
Ok Wily One. I did what other men do not often do. I questioned ladies about which colors are trending.(talk about a way to meet gals, in my younger years perhaps). Apparently teal is a hot color of choice presently. Got a real thick bottomed teal vase, bottom too thick for tumbles. Hammered tumbles out of the thinner glass at top half. Am attempting to do a brick melt on the bottom half to make tumbles out of. How did I do color wise ? 3 pounds thick teal glass too melt. Can't mix other glass with it because I don't know the coefficient: Better in outside light, has a white layer in it too
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Post by MsAli on Feb 14, 2018 10:16:55 GMT -5
I take no offense to anything I love good (I was gonna say poking but that aint right) ribbing?
Biased eyes? HHmmm somehow I think you wont.....and if you do, well c'est la vie
Wiley..oh yes, I will not deny that,......I am rather witty too
Ok Wily One. I did what other men do not often do. I questioned ladies about which colors are trending.(talk about a way to meet gals, in my younger years perhaps). Apparently teal is a hot color of choice presently. Got a real thick bottomed teal vase, bottom too thick for tumbles. Hammered tumbles out of the thinner glass at top half. Am attempting to do a brick melt on the bottom half to make tumbles out of. How did I do color wise ? 3 pounds thick teal glass too melt. Can't mix other glass with it because I don't know the coefficient: Better in outside light, has a white layer in it too You did amazing.....Teal is gorgeous and apparently hot right now I have a interior designer friend in Tn who just did a room in teal and pink. She said those are the "in" colors of the moment I have no clue really, I don't pay attention to trends. But I know I love it. I can't wait till you start selling this stuff.... Hurry up and get the pieces out to the jewelry makers
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 14, 2018 10:24:21 GMT -5
Teal has always been one of my most favorite colors. The teal glass is yummy! Probably the reason I gravitate to the blue, copper complexes in rocks.
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Post by 1dave on Feb 14, 2018 11:59:00 GMT -5
My grandfather often said "a brown cow eats green grass under a blue sky and they all go together."
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Post by jamesp on Feb 15, 2018 10:30:33 GMT -5
Teal has always been one of my most favorite colors. The teal glass is yummy! Probably the reason I gravitate to the blue, copper complexes in rocks. MsAliWell gals, this was an attempt. Thanks a bunch for opinions. I did see a bunch of teal glassware in the stores. 1 + 1 Not enough temperature for the teal glass vase from China. Judging from it's density(in this case difficulty to hammer) the temp seemed low going into the fusion. Hard/dense glass often requires higher heat but it's a guessing game. Benchmark established, must re-heat. Maybe 1550F, flipping coins here.. Retained color well, OK on that issue. May have damaged some fine white splotchy areas, well, certain of it.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 15, 2018 10:38:02 GMT -5
This will be another product. Hot fusing hammered chunks that do not conform to tumbling dimensions. Today's cook. First try at small fusions in kiln. I think. A re-melt from a hammered brick. Halloween Candy, subversive colors. Note small test chunk at lower right of first plate MsAli, the China bead glass you turned me on to. Then me and wife made a challenge. We each got $100 budget to buy glass to see who could out do who. Well, she barbecued me by sending notes out to Murano glass outlets on Ebay seeking broken Murano stuff. And other glass sellers. Murano shades for cheap, she wins. AND fine Hirsch glass tiles, she wins
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Post by MsAli on Feb 15, 2018 10:53:15 GMT -5
Good morning to you James
Love the teal, it is such a calming beautiful color. It reminds me of an iceberg. I can see where the white got some damage to it. That brick might be a bust. Be interesting to see what happens when you re-melt I see the little chunk-Too dark and not as vibrant.... I am drawn more to the others. Must see the finished product before I can really decide
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 15, 2018 11:51:13 GMT -5
This will be another product. Hot fusing hammered chunks that do not conform to tumbling dimensions. Today's cook. First try at small fusions in kiln. I think.
Those will make some sweet tumbles, jamesp!
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Post by MsAli on Feb 15, 2018 12:02:05 GMT -5
How did I not see the pics of what she picked earlier?
Oh yeah Jim she won hands down
Give her a high 5 for me!!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 15, 2018 17:32:17 GMT -5
Good morning to you James Love the teal, it is such a calming beautiful color. It reminds me of an iceberg. I can see where the white got some damage to it. That brick might be a bust. Be interesting to see what happens when you re-melt I see the little chunk-Too dark and not as vibrant.... I am drawn more to the others. Must see the finished product before I can really decide Got you loud and clear. not just doing vomit, must appeal to you gals. Check out the Murano lamp shades, bet they cost if not cracked. She threw in a gold shade that she said was even more valuable. It is coated an not useful.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 15, 2018 17:34:27 GMT -5
This will be another product. Hot fusing hammered chunks that do not conform to tumbling dimensions. Today's cook. First try at small fusions in kiln. I think.
Those will make some sweet tumbles, jamesp!
I can't do them justice with the camera Jean. They will be melts by morning and easy tumble able blobs. Thanks.
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Post by MsAli on Feb 15, 2018 17:52:59 GMT -5
Good morning to you James Love the teal, it is such a calming beautiful color. It reminds me of an iceberg. I can see where the white got some damage to it. That brick might be a bust. Be interesting to see what happens when you re-melt I see the little chunk-Too dark and not as vibrant.... I am drawn more to the others. Must see the finished product before I can really decide Got you loud and clear. not just doing vomit, must appeal to you gals. Check out the Murano lamp shades, bet they cost if not cracked. She threw in a gold shade that she said was even more valuable. It is coated an not useful. James vomit never appeals to us girls
HHHMMMM Murano Lamp Shades--be still my heart
Too rich for my blood, trust me I've looked.
Have never seen a Gold one
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