Tom
fully equipped rock polisher
My dad Tom suddenly passed away yesterday, Just wanted his "rock" family to know.
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Mar 26, 2016 11:17:25 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Mar 26, 2016 11:17:25 GMT -5
If there is no such rule, there needs to be. It isn't safe to click on links from unknown individuals. I recently clicked on a link where a person had posted items I owned and claiming they were selling them... I know they don't have the items, since I have them, just wanted to know what was going on. What was going on is this person had a scam web page set up that locks up your computer and tells you to phone a number to get it unlocked. This is not a rare scam, it's a growing one. If anyone can post links on your site, your site IS going to get targeted sooner or later. I gather this person wants me to follow a link to their website or video even though they're not willing to post any photos here. No. That is just not a reasonable request this time of century. I'm not clicking any more links from unknowns, and I think it's insanity that they're still allowed to be posted in people's comment threads & forums in 2016. Somebody's going to get badly hurt sooner or later. If it's a trade and there's no need for money anyway, what is the big hurry? Peachfront did you just click the link and poof your computer locked up with ransom ware? I have never heard of this scam. Ransomware (and you are correct it is becoming a real problem) is normally done with a scam phone call and the victim lets the scammer have access to their computer. You are worried about clicking a link attached to a post here, you realize that every time you use Google or another search engine and the click on one of the suggestions you are actually clicking a link. If your computer got locked up clicking a link then the net is broken because we click hundreds of links everyday. 10's of thousands oh people get stung on scams just here in Canada, so you can multiply that by 10 for the USA. A person needs to be very diligent with computers. Bye the best anti virus software you can get. But anti malware soft ware. Google herdprotect and download it and run it frequently. If a user does nothing to protect themselves they WILL get hurt. Even the worlds most secure sites get hacked, we can't have enough protection. Back up your data files weekly and disconnect the drive you use for backup. Better yet get clowd backup and have it backup daily. I will go on blindly clicking links (using common sense) because if I don't the net is useless Happy Easter to everyone Tom |
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 26, 2016 11:33:35 GMT -5
One thing that I do regularly is hover over a link and check the address in the bottom left of my Firefox browser. That tells me the address that the link is actually going to.
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Tom
fully equipped rock polisher
My dad Tom suddenly passed away yesterday, Just wanted his "rock" family to know.
Member since January 2013
Posts: 1,557
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Mar 26, 2016 16:01:59 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Mar 26, 2016 16:01:59 GMT -5
One thing that I do regularly is hover over a link and check the address in the bottom left of my Firefox browser. That tells me the address that the link is actually going to. Good idea and good advice |
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Mar 26, 2016 18:37:54 GMT -5
Post by radio on Mar 26, 2016 18:37:54 GMT -5
 ?? I'm thinking about leaving this forum for good. Never in my life have I been under suspicion so many times without having done anything wrong. Don't rush away. Stick around and join in on some of the posts and you will see it's actually a very friendly and tight knit community.  I have over 1,200 posts and have tried to sell exactly one item on here. Apparently no one needed an 8 inch 600 grit diamond wheel  |
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Tommy
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Mar 26, 2016 22:37:41 GMT -5
Post by Tommy on Mar 26, 2016 22:37:41 GMT -5
Members shouldn't have to be worried about what happens when they click on a link. Anybody can buy from anybody at any time, but I don't understand why it's allowed for new posters to post links instead of photos. It is not safe. Members who continue to click on links from unknown parties will eventually pay a high price, and maybe that's the only way some people learn, but I don't understand why people wouldn't want to create a safer atmosphere for everyone. I think if a robo-spam-bot posts a harmful link it is generally obvious what has happened and those kinds of posts generally get deleted from the board pretty quickly. This person was obviously not a robo-spam-bot. This discussion is about the continual reference to an unwritten rule that a new member cannot post a for-sale item. Without a posted rule or guideline it is impossible for a new member to follow said rule and therefore the perception that there was a rule becomes null and void. If popular Facebook selling pages such as Cabs and Slabs, or Rockhound Connection, or I <3 Rocks just to name a few tried to enforce a stupid rule like this they might shut the page off before it gets filled up with mindless drivel of members just trying to throw up a hundred posts. |
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Mar 27, 2016 10:55:51 GMT -5
Post by toiv0 on Mar 27, 2016 10:55:51 GMT -5
Members shouldn't have to be worried about what happens when they click on a link. Anybody can buy from anybody at any time, but I don't understand why it's allowed for new posters to post links instead of photos. It is not safe. Members who continue to click on links from unknown parties will eventually pay a high price, and maybe that's the only way some people learn, but I don't understand why people wouldn't want to create a safer atmosphere for everyone. I can understand why a new poster would post a link instead of a picture. Not being really computer savvy it took an act of god and some luck to figure out how to post a picture here. Living in northern MN not close to a city the internet is nothing to write home to tell mom about, it is slow and unreliable. So I have to upload to a second site, grab one link post it here, then go back to photobucket click back wait a minute before it goes back, click on second pic, wait a min for it to come up to get the link....you can see on a bad internet day why I won't even attempt it. Maybe I'm still doing something wrong. I don't even have cell phone service and probably have the fastest service around as I live across the street from the Frontier block house. Why can't this site just post like we do to a photobucket or flicker? |
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Post by toiv0 on Mar 27, 2016 10:58:55 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot to mention I went to Miss Olivias site and ordered a few things. She had some unusual Mary Ellen jasper there. I will let everyone know how it goes.
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Mar 27, 2016 11:00:34 GMT -5
Post by captbob on Mar 27, 2016 11:00:34 GMT -5
Why can't this site just post like we do to a photobucket or flicker? For this site to self host all the pictures posted here, Mark would have to pay for an outrageous amount of hosting space. If the pictures were hosted indefinitely, so that they didn't disappear from posts at a given time, the bandwidth for so much hosting space would cost a fortune. |
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Mar 27, 2016 11:03:10 GMT -5
Post by captbob on Mar 27, 2016 11:03:10 GMT -5
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Mar 27, 2016 11:07:35 GMT -5
Post by toiv0 on Mar 27, 2016 11:07:35 GMT -5
No, but that is pretty sweet, lots of red, I bought a small one with lots of bright red, one with yellow algae, and one with lots of hematite. I think my total was about 100 lbs.
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Tom
fully equipped rock polisher
My dad Tom suddenly passed away yesterday, Just wanted his "rock" family to know.
Member since January 2013
Posts: 1,557
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Mar 27, 2016 11:35:16 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Mar 27, 2016 11:35:16 GMT -5
See Olivia.
Stick around you are making some sales:). Congrats
Just about everyone is a peach on this site, chill with us and you will see for yourself
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peachfront
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Stones have begun to speak, because an ear is there to hear them.
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Mar 27, 2016 11:44:29 GMT -5
Post by peachfront on Mar 27, 2016 11:44:29 GMT -5
Peachfront did you just click the link and poof your computer locked up with ransom ware? I have never heard of this scam. Ransomware (and you are correct it is becoming a real problem) is normally done with a scam phone call and the victim lets the scammer have access to their computer. You are worried about clicking a link attached to a post here, you realize that every time you use Google or another search engine and the click on one of the suggestions you are actually clicking a link. If your computer got locked up clicking a link then the net is broken because we click hundreds of links everyday. Tom Yeah, that's exactly what happened. I had to crash my computer to get out of it. An alarm goes off shrieking that you have to call some number to save your computer. I don't call such numbers because I can recognize a scam but you do have to know how to crash and get away because it completely locks the computer and sends the alarms screaming... many, many people have apparently responded to this by thinking the call is actually coming from Microsoft so they call the number and get scammed of their credit card info. It's very convincing. Not everyone is married to a computer programmer, nor does everyone have my experience with recognizing scammers. And even professionals are being scammed, bricked, or extorted. This is not a rare problem. It's a growing one. No, I don't just randomly click on Google links any more. Those days are done. You can search in some safe place, like Amazon, etc. I'm not searching all over the internet any more, there's no reason to. There are lots of places a legit person can introduce themselves, a forum like this one, Twitter, etc. and I can get a sense of them before I click. If a person isn't willing to introduce themselves, then I have the right to wonder why. Maybe they just don't want to socialize, maybe it's legit, but since I don't read minds, I have to use common sense and avoid people who seem to be unwilling to do the minimum. Not being willing to invest time/money in a project is something I associate with people who want to be free to pick up and go elsewhere once the scam is burned. It may be unfair to the nonscammer but I think protecting my safety is more important than protecting an unknown person's sensitive feelings. |
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Post by jakesrocks on Mar 27, 2016 12:28:24 GMT -5
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Post by Original Admin on Mar 31, 2016 14:57:30 GMT -5
There is no 100 post rule. Scammers are caught out naturally.
Great friendships can be formed over a spot of trading.
Some people take a chance and buy, some don't.
Most payment processors offer some kind of protection if the transaction complies.
My philosophy is along the lines of giving people a chance until they prove they aren't worth it, instead of assuming they aren't worth it from the off. There are exceptions and these are normally fairly obvious.
My philosophy isn't for everyone though. I feel that with an individuals common sense in place, the harm:gain ratio falls favourably to the right for both seller and buyer.
My two cents:)
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Mar 31, 2016 17:57:54 GMT -5
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Post by adam on Mar 31, 2016 17:57:54 GMT -5
Doesn't matter how money posts you have to buy, so there's don't need for a rule for having a specific post count to sell. Just need to be aware that newer members don't have a reputation(maybe they do) on the board, and a lack of reputation is a red flag. If you so choose to visit a bad site, that'on you. No one makes you go to any site.
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Thunder69
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Post by Thunder69 on Mar 31, 2016 18:58:07 GMT -5
There is no 100 post rule. Scammers are caught out naturally. Great friendships can be formed over a spot of trading. Some people take a chance and buy, some don't. Most payment processors offer some kind of protection if the transaction complies. My philosophy is along the lines of giving people a chance until they prove they aren't worth it, instead of assuming they aren't worth it from the off. There are exceptions and these are normally fairly obvious. My philosophy isn't for everyone though. I feel that with an individuals common sense in place, the harm:gain ratio falls favourably to the right for both seller and buyer. My two cents:) Mark I am going to add this to the initial post of the Attention all Members thread ...Hope this helps everyone ... |
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Post by jakesrocks on Mar 31, 2016 21:29:35 GMT -5
When did I become the asshole in this topic? I am getting PMs telling me to look at Mark's post. While I think there should be a 50 post rule, I defended the OP. You're being mistaken for Mark our administrator. I think that to clear this whole thing up once and for all, Mark the administrator should put this to a vote by the members. Just a simple yes or no pole on a 50 post rule for selling. This same thing comes up over and over. Let us vote on it Mark, and end this squabble. |
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Apr 1, 2016 8:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by broseph82 on Apr 1, 2016 8:12:47 GMT -5
When did I become the asshole in this topic? I am getting PMs telling me to look at Mark's post. While I think there should be a 50 post rule, I defended the OP. Lol you aren't the only one. Seems like some are going way too far to defend themselves for some reason... |
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Intheswamp
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Apr 1, 2016 8:52:52 GMT -5
Post by Intheswamp on Apr 1, 2016 8:52:52 GMT -5
<chuckle> This thread is still plugging along. I don't think the OP hasn't posted on the forum (much less this thread) since March 24th. What's going on in PMing I have no idea...
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Apr 1, 2016 10:12:57 GMT -5
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Post by broseph82 on Apr 1, 2016 10:12:57 GMT -5
<chuckle> This thread is still plugging along. I don't think the OP hasn't posted on the forum (much less this thread) since March 24th. What's going on in PMing I have no idea... I'm going to make sure I get you on the list! |
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?? I'm thinking about leaving this forum for good. Never in my life have I been under suspicion so many times without having done anything wrong. 
I have over 1,200 posts and have tried to sell exactly one item on here. Apparently no one needed an 8 inch 600 grit diamond wheel 
