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Post by jamesp on Apr 10, 2018 18:50:12 GMT -5
I see what you are saying about the bail size and threading cord/chain thru. Willing to make purchase that will accommodate. Let me tell you about a problem I have that needs addressing before bail size - drilling hole with out breaking. I am a klutz when it comes to such delicate work. I know to use water. I do not have a Dremel drill press, I do have a foredom and a big fat Dremel adjustable 5000 to 35,000 RPM. I am thinking the Dremel drill press is the way to go - opinions ? And with a good backing material - wood - rubber - ideas ? I have China made 1.5mm and 1mm. I like the 1mm for the pinch bails. Also, should I buy US Lasco Diamond drills brand for best quality. I found that the Crystalite Triple Ripple Drills from Kingsley North were the best bits for drilling. They were only $125 per 100 back in the day but are $225 per 100 now. Most glass is fairly easy on drill bits so you should get many holes with 1 bit. It sucks when it takes 4 or 5 bits for 1 hole! I have drilled many hundreds of holes with bits. I have a 4 X 6 X 3/4" dish that I use a piece of obsidian in the bottom with water covering the pendant. The obsidian is to pendant on to help keep the back from blowing out. Obsidian is soft so no harm to the bit. I do not use a drill press, tried it did not like it. Well that is basically the way I 'did' it because I have am ultrasonic drill that I use now. The cost to drill with that is very low but they cost a lot to buy. If you keep at this and drill thousands of cabs it may become the way to go. Highland Park I bought mine used but it came from this dealer Ultrasonic Drill and he is a very nice person to talk to. Ultrasonic drill are a bugger to figure out how to use the right way but once a person gets it right it is very fast.............MrP Thanks a whole bunch for this info Michael. Still milling all this over. The ultrasonic drill looks exciting. Bet a an old dentist drill would get the job done, I believe they hurl along at 100,000 RPM.
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Post by Pat on Apr 10, 2018 19:15:40 GMT -5
jamesp. Do you also tumble small fingernail size pieces? I need a handful if you do. I want to drill them to insert ear wires for earrings. Don’t need to be shiny. Can look like beach glass.
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Post by orrum on Apr 10, 2018 19:27:55 GMT -5
Toivio just hammer the circle on both side and glue to both sides with a loop standing up for the necklace. It will go on like a pinch bail.
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 11, 2018 5:32:45 GMT -5
Toivio just hammer the circle on both side and glue to both sides with a loop standing up for the necklace. It will go on like a pinch bail. going to try that today
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 11, 2018 5:34:16 GMT -5
That transformer wire looks interesting, have never ran across it but now have a mission. I want some. How big of transformer? How big is the wire?
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 5:41:15 GMT -5
jamesp. Do you also tumble small fingernail size pieces? I need a handful if you do. I want to drill them to insert ear wires for earrings. Don’t need to be shiny. Can look like beach glass. PM address Pat. They will be polished. It is the best way to see the color glass has to offer.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 5:55:02 GMT -5
That transformer wire looks interesting, have never ran across it but now have a mission. I want some. How big of transformer? How big is the wire? I found it at the scrap yard. In the copper bin. You may find it in old transformers or motors. It comes in many sizes as far as I know. It has gently radiused shoulders and is the ultimate strand material for jewelers working copper. Power supply units. I burned the lot I found on a grill over a campfire to remove the wicked varnish coating and anneal all at same time. Then cut them 2-4 inches long and tumbled them in a rotary tumbler to clean. Mine is about 1/16 thick X 5/32+. Maybe only used in 3 phase....
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 11, 2018 6:03:43 GMT -5
That transformer wire looks interesting, have never ran across it but now have a mission. I want some. How big of transformer? How big is the wire? I found it at the scrap yard. In the copper bin. You may find it in old transformers or motors. It comes in many sizes as far as I know. It has gently radiused shoulders and is the ultimate strand material for jewelers working copper. Power supply units. I burned the lot I found on a grill over a campfire to remove the wicked varnish coating and anneal all at same time. Then cut them 2-4 inches long and tumbled them in a rotary tumbler to clean. Mine is about 1/16 thick X 5/32+. Maybe only used in 3 phase.... I have lots of electrician contacts in all the mines I go in. Top of my list. I might be finally able to max out a Large Flat rate, maybe two rolls of gorilla tape. On another note, I tried to delete pictures on my replies and can't anymore. I see you do it and also shrink the pictures....helllllllllllllp.
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 11, 2018 6:04:49 GMT -5
I found it at the scrap yard. In the copper bin. You may find it in old transformers or motors. It comes in many sizes as far as I know. It has gently radiused shoulders and is the ultimate strand material for jewelers working copper. Power supply units. I burned the lot I found on a grill over a campfire to remove the wicked varnish coating and anneal all at same time. Then cut them 2-4 inches long and tumbled them in a rotary tumbler to clean. Mine is about 1/16 thick X 5/32+. Maybe only used in 3 phase.... I have lots of electrician contacts in all the mines I go in. Top of my list. I might be finally able to max out a Large Flat rate, maybe two rolls of gorilla tape. On another note, I tried to delete pictures on my replies and can't anymore. I see you do it and also shrink the pictures....helllllllllllllp. I seen it shrunk automatically, magic?
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 6:21:54 GMT -5
I think the forum software shrinks the photos in replies to save space toiv0.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 6:28:03 GMT -5
Round vase reduced and flattened with heat. Then shaped on a lapper and coarse tumbled to shape edges. Next step is several tumbling steps till polished. Upper left globe
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 8:29:05 GMT -5
My little work area on the bluff above the creek from the dungeon. Lapper with a few hundred melts to shape. Note river of 'glass mud' heading down hill at top of photo. Lots of glass gets ground in terms of tonnage. Pendant stock made oversize, 60 grit flat lap cuts it like butter. Washing area, glass must be kept clean. Wash well, put on hot plate to dry, then cook. Wife bought some glass last night from an individual getting out of glass for way cheap $120. About 45 pounds of sheet stock. I chopped it up w/glass cutter, big sheets. Many of them cost over $40 per plate. People don't realize how costly it can be. She does the store bought and I do the recycle and rogue glass for the most part.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 8:35:08 GMT -5
Bought this large/heavy hand blown vase on Ebay 99 cent sale yesterday. It is just a curved slab to me. It was miss named and did not get seen so I got it for $5.19. I know this brand and know that it can be be fused with others from this company in China. It is actually worth quite a bit as this company makes some of the finest/prettiest hand blown vases. Hats off to China's glass blowers. Will make beautiful jewels. Sure does have a small base.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 9:06:40 GMT -5
Here you go toiv0. Let me correct size, 1mm X 4mm, so 1/25th of an inch thick. Bout half way between 1/32 and 1/16. Fine metal working size. Could use size up and size down, maybe 2 sizes up.
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Post by Pat on Apr 11, 2018 9:53:07 GMT -5
jamesp I'm looking at the glass your wife bought. It looks like what the stained glass folks use. Is it? If so, would you like more?
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 10:30:40 GMT -5
This large Greek slab picked up cheap. My favorite, reactive components fused between 2 sheets of clear. Metals, wires, screens, and no telling what else. some pre-shaped pendants, 8mm thick and will have to be heavily tumbled to thin .
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Post by MsAli on Apr 11, 2018 10:31:30 GMT -5
This large Greek slab picked up cheap. My favorite, reactive components fused between 2 sheets of clear. Metals, wires, screens, and no telling what else. some pre-shaped pendants, 8mm thick and will have to be heavily tumbled to thin . Those are badass
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 10:33:11 GMT -5
jamesp I'm looking at the glass your wife bought. It looks like what the stained glass folks use. Is it? If so, would you like more? Kind offer Pat, can't use stained glass because it has unknown melt compatibility. May could figure it out and may not... I am saturated with unknown glass at this point, maybe i better back out. Thanks though.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2018 10:36:26 GMT -5
This large Greek slab picked up cheap. My favorite, reactive components fused between 2 sheets of clear. Metals, wires, screens, and no telling what else. some pre-shaped pendants, 8mm thick and will have to be heavily tumbled to thin . Those are badass Agreed. I have reactive top-top on list. Easy to do, just throw the reactive agents between 2 clear fuse able plates and cook. They also used powdered glass, fritted glass, thin confetti glass, sand, metal filings etc. And a raccoon.
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Post by MsAli on Apr 11, 2018 10:39:25 GMT -5
Agreed. I have reactive top-top on list. Easy to do, just throw the reactive agents between 2 clear fuse able plates and cook. They also used powdered glass, fritted glass, thin confetti glass, sand, metal filings etc. And a raccoon. A raccoon eh? I think these are some of the best you have done
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