jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jun 26, 2018 11:51:38 GMT -5
WOW! Glad you got out of that situation and came home, to a comfort area. Peace. Lots to be said for peace Beth.
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Post by MsAli on Jun 26, 2018 12:19:37 GMT -5
WOW! Glad you got out of that situation and came home, to a comfort area. Peace. Lots to be said for peace Beth. PEACE is why I don't let anyone get to me. There is not a dam person on this earth that will ever disrupt my peace again. They can try, but it will never happen Yep, there is a lot to be said for peace
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 26, 2018 16:07:42 GMT -5
Dang, going from having my diapers changed to harem master(strutting like a rooster). I have had a motto in life to be the other way. I guess I got it from my Dad but much worse. He sat on his butt and played the stock market and of course made yields by investing in the minority direction. Me, I have always done everything as unconventional as possible. My career and my play time. My daredevil years are over and associated injuries a plaque. Attempts at novelty has paid my way thru life financially and rich in experience (in some what Don Quixote fashion may my wife have mercy on me). Terrorizing glass and rocks in kilns and tumblers has been the pastime for a while now. Every since I moved back home from the neighbor gal's house 10 years ago and causing me great grief for not staying with her. She was a loan officer at the local bank that did illegal loans for the judge's and sheriff's mistresses, lawyers and other crooks in small town Georgia. Practiced at entrapment that child. 3 husbands and 2 boyfriends all ended up incarcerated. Well connected and a long story never mind. A fine non-fiction book but the parole officer would advise me not to publish such for reasons of liable. It's all in the past. Moving forward.
Never apply for a job as a harem guard... Of course, that would be one way to keep you from getting into trouble.
Only be the master of the castle.
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Post by 1dave on Jun 26, 2018 16:15:49 GMT -5
Were it not for my children, the cat, dog, and my beloved spouse, I'd be the Master Of My House!
Oh, I forgot the bowl of goldfish.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 26, 2018 16:41:21 GMT -5
Were it not for my children, the cat, dog, and my beloved spouse, I'd be the Master Of My House! Oh, I forgot the bowl of goldfish. Goldfish are unreliable, and not to be trusted.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jun 26, 2018 19:43:43 GMT -5
Were it not for my children, the cat, dog, and my beloved spouse, I'd be the Master Of My House! Oh, I forgot the bowl of goldfish. Goldfish are unreliable, and not to be trusted. Too funny (and true)!
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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 5:57:39 GMT -5
Me and Denise went to the glass shop/warehouse in the industrial district and bought four 2'x2' sheets of colored glass yesterday. Cost $125. expensive. We have a ton of scrap but she insists on buying more for her compositions and that is fine w/me because she has certain talent. The office manager said they had some discontinued glass back in the warehouse. I was guessing it was a few hundred pounds. Escorted me to the back room and there was enough 6000 pound crates of mixed colors to fill up a tractor trailer. One particular crate was open and had a fine mix of color so I inquired about it in particular - "COE 90 fusing glass from China" ( MrP, we were talking about difficulty in finding color.) The sheets measure 39" x 39" which makes perfect sense being imported, 1 meter X 1 meter. About 300 sheets. Up beat colors. Along with a enough boxes of compatible frit and stick glass to fill a pick up truck. It sounded like the quote ended up being more like "do you have a big truck and can come up here and get it out of the warehouse ?". (I get into some of the damnedest situations, I was in deep shock on this one) "Ask and ye will receive" falling true here. Then there was about a dozen more crates in the 'tons' weight of discontinued glass. I just questioned the import crate because it was open had such a fine mix of colors. I live on a farm and have deep pit where trash glass from the glass blower is being dumped into. It is just glass and non-pollutive. I would eventually bury it with the tractor. So it can be gotten rid of easily if it fails. So they are going to let me bring home some samples and test melt it first. The import glass seems to have less pollution restrictions on it. So wilder colors. The US has shut down manufacture of several colors because they don't allow high temp melting of cadmium(red glass) and some other metals without expensive air cleaning apparatus. Red in particular and yellow glass seems to be in shortage. Looks like a trip back to the glass store today to pick up samples. wish me luck.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 27, 2018 6:01:36 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 6:03:37 GMT -5
Love unaffordable but usable scrap stuff. May have hit a home run on this one Jean.
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Post by fernwood on Jun 27, 2018 6:04:33 GMT -5
Hmmm. Next question. Do you have a buddy with a semi and a fork lift? Pending how the samples turn out.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 6:05:36 GMT -5
This is the retail store in the warehouse. The stock is in the back.
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Post by fernwood on Jun 27, 2018 6:11:09 GMT -5
Nice. Lots of potential there.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 6:15:11 GMT -5
Hmmm. Next question. Do you have a buddy with a semi and a fork lift? Pending how the samples turn out. They have a forklift and I have a lift on my tractor Beth. I have a 7000 pound capacity trailer. They are only 10 miles from the house. I can do this in shuttle trips. Looks like I can get just one crate which may be way more than I need. It had all been sitting in the Chicago warehouse for years, now been in Atlanta for years. Looks like they are in no hurry... They called it discontinued. How do you discontinue such fine colors ?
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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 6:16:44 GMT -5
Nice. Lots of potential there. You are looking at Spectrum, Bullseye and Uroburos glass. The US made expensive stuff. The import looks the same. The glass blower scrap is COE 96, the import is COE 90. But Denise had purchased a whole load of COE 90 from an individual. So we have plenty of US 90 to try with the import 90.
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Post by fernwood on Jun 27, 2018 6:49:38 GMT -5
I loved Spectrum in my stained glass years. Such beautiful patterns. The quality was unmatched, at least for what was available to me in SE WI.
Know all about those Chicago warehouses, sitting full of amazing material. CEO of a Human Services company in SE WI, I worked with for many years was all into them. Very much a hands on CEO. We had a side business of packaging small hardware. Lots of contracts for that, nation wide. He would often spend days taking our small delivery panel van to Chicago, loading up, returning, and making multiple trips. Seems like Chicago is the dumping grounds for lots of good materials, just waiting to be found. Last I heard, the SE company I worked for, now has over $10 million in business for the packaging part. That helps to fund the underfunded human services part.
Glad someone near you grabbed stuff from Chicago.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 27, 2018 7:12:25 GMT -5
Love unaffordable but usable scrap stuff. May have hit a home run on this one Jean. You have scrapper's luck, James. A great talent that allows you to not only be in the right place at the right time, but to also to ask the right people the right questions. To be able to jump on any opportunity. Having a place to store those wonderful finds as well. A luxury a lot of do not have. Knowing what you are looking at and what you can do with it another enviable talent.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 7:20:58 GMT -5
Love unaffordable but usable scrap stuff. May have hit a home run on this one Jean. You have scrapper's luck, James. A great talent that allows you to not only be in the right place at the right time, but to also to ask the right people the right questions. To be able to jump on any opportunity. Having a place to store those wonderful finds as well. A luxury a lot of do not have. Knowing what you are looking at and what you can do with it another enviable talent. The worker bee took me back there and showed me that glass. I had been pondering 'the approach' to the management about making offer. I knew it was in disarray and totally dangerous for employees to handle. I can't believe they let me raise some of those big sheets out of the box. Serious liability, hate to pay their accident insurance. I have seen 2 customers get cut and require serious stitches in the few times I visited that store. Big plates like that give me goose bumps thinking how quickly it will lacerate you. It is amazing how much gets thrown away. Manager said they had already trashed half the glass that was sitting back there. Meaning many tons.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 27, 2018 7:22:45 GMT -5
You know what they say - One mans trash.....
Yes, surprising they are not more concerned with safety.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 7:32:35 GMT -5
I loved Spectrum in my stained glass years. Such beautiful patterns. The quality was unmatched, at least for what was available to me in SE WI. Know all about those Chicago warehouses, sitting full of amazing material. CEO of a Human Services company in SE WI, I worked with for many years was all into them. Very much a hands on CEO. We had a side business of packaging small hardware. Lots of contracts for that, nation wide. He would often spend days taking our small delivery panel van to Chicago, loading up, returning, and making multiple trips. Seems like Chicago is the dumping grounds for lots of good materials, just waiting to be found. Last I heard, the SE company I worked for, now has over $10 million in business for the packaging part. That helps to fund the underfunded human services part. Glad someone near you grabbed stuff from Chicago. About half that scrap is discontinued Spectrum stained glass, useless for fusing. I looked at it and compared it to the glass in their stained glass area and could not see one reason why it should not be on the shelf for sale. Maybe Spectrum discontinued it and paid their distributors for it. Corporate policy never fails to amaze me. Bet I am getting ready to reap a windfall due to corporate stupidity. Stupid tattooed on their forehead. I would rough estimate all those crates at over 2 million dollars. If a younger man I would buy the whole lot. I have strong plant tables in a relatively new green house. 4' X 90' on each wall of greenhouse. 75 amp power, full irrigation. May end up being "The Glass Greenhouse". Sitting empty with nothing to do:
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Post by fernwood on Jun 27, 2018 7:37:37 GMT -5
Hey, send the greenhouse to me, lol. Would restore it to being a greenhouse. JK. I need one about half that size. Yes, corp. stupidity. Their loss, your gain.
I have three bins of Spectrum at my old place. Maybe 500 lbs. Only wish I could get back there and retrieve it. Some is double thickness, by their 1980's standards. Would make some very nice cabs, as is. About 1/4" thick.
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