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Post by jamesp on Jun 27, 2018 19:19:50 GMT -5
A lot of the discontinued glass is stained glass, Walt told me it is not much use for fusing. The stain glass is drop dead pretty. They did say that I had to take a whole crate at a time, 800 to 1200 pounds each. It is packed vertical and really must be raised up and out of the crate which is nerve racking at that size. maybe you can get your wife into doing stained glass? When I worked at a hardware store one of the guys was moving a sheet of glass to cut. Slipped and sliced his forearm pretty dam good. Very luck it did not sever it Be careful I am deathly afraid of handling plate glass. My best kid friend's Dad walked into their sliding glass door and his life was barely spared. It just cuts flesh like hot knife ion butter. Happens too fast. Thanks, fear is in place. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 27, 2018 19:47:01 GMT -5
maybe you can get your wife into doing stained glass? When I worked at a hardware store one of the guys was moving a sheet of glass to cut. Slipped and sliced his forearm pretty dam good. Very luck it did not sever it Be careful I am deathly afraid of handling plate glass. My best kid friend's Dad walked into their sliding glass door and his life was barely spared. It just cuts flesh like hot knife ion butter. Happens too fast. Thanks, fear is in place. A potentially lethal hobby I would not be encouraging my friends to take up. Just sayin'. |
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Post by MsAli on Jun 27, 2018 21:02:50 GMT -5
maybe you can get your wife into doing stained glass? When I worked at a hardware store one of the guys was moving a sheet of glass to cut. Slipped and sliced his forearm pretty dam good. Very luck it did not sever it Be careful I am deathly afraid of handling plate glass. My best kid friend's Dad walked into their sliding glass door and his life was barely spared. It just cuts flesh like hot knife ion butter. Happens too fast. Thanks, fear is in place. I had a childhood friend that did the same thing. He was sleep walking and went through thier patio door. Cut himself up pretty bad. Maybe you dont need sheet glass eh? |
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Post by surreality on Jun 27, 2018 23:39:23 GMT -5
We have about 500lbs of sheet glass in the living room from years back. Used to use it in place of stones, backed with art paper for the clear, then leather, for doing beaded bezels. Just getting it settled into the room there was a moment of 'the glass stayed still while my hands kept moving', and right through the gloves and into the fingers. I was really lucky I have a fairly light touch.
Always meant to get a ringsaw to cut it, but the cash and the motivation never lined up, so it sits. It creates a very safe edge to handle. The 'score and crack and grind' method still leaves some jags and sharp sections. Meanwhile, the scraps I bought that had been cut at a local shop with a ringsaw, I'd feel comfortable juggling or running against my face. It's that much of a night and day difference, and after that one cut to my hands... nope, not touching it until I can get a hold of one of those machines.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 4:51:59 GMT -5
We have about 500lbs of sheet glass in the living room from years back. Used to use it in place of stones, backed with art paper for the clear, then leather, for doing beaded bezels. Just getting it settled into the room there was a moment of 'the glass stayed still while my hands kept moving', and right through the gloves and into the fingers. I was really lucky I have a fairly light touch. Always meant to get a ringsaw to cut it, but the cash and the motivation never lined up, so it sits. It creates a very safe edge to handle. The 'score and crack and grind' method still leaves some jags and sharp sections. Meanwhile, the scraps I bought that had been cut at a local shop with a ringsaw, I'd feel comfortable juggling or running against my face. It's that much of a night and day difference, and after that one cut to my hands... nope, not touching it until I can get a hold of one of those machines. Things of nightmares surreality. c-r-i-n-g-e to the nth ! "'the glass stayed still while my hands kept moving'"  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 5:13:32 GMT -5
I am deathly afraid of handling plate glass. My best kid friend's Dad walked into their sliding glass door and his life was barely spared. It just cuts flesh like hot knife ion butter. Happens too fast. Thanks, fear is in place. I had a childhood friend that did the same thing. He was sleep walking and went through thier patio door. Cut himself up pretty bad. Maybe you dont need sheet glass eh? So sorry to hear about your friend. (cringe cringe cringe). I am used to steel, throwing it around with out worry, but glass is another story. My plan is to put the whole 4000 to 5000 pounds on a trailer and back it under a shed and let customers come and remove it from the crates. Please don't make me handle it. Please. I will have to handle the keepers eventually. Maybe a full leather outfit ? I ran an add in a Facebook 'glass supplies for sale' group. It appears this glass is at least 15 years old meaning it was probably colored with the expensive metal coloring agents. Curious to see if there is any interest. I am getting a whole bunch of powdered glass(and regular sized) frit in 1 kilo jars. The powder is great for glass 'paintings'. Facebook ad:  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 5:33:54 GMT -5
I am deathly afraid of handling plate glass. My best kid friend's Dad walked into their sliding glass door and his life was barely spared. It just cuts flesh like hot knife ion butter. Happens too fast. Thanks, fear is in place. A potentially lethal hobby I would not be encouraging my friends to take up. Just sayin'. I love working with my hands and do not want to risk injuring them. But bleeding out from a slashed wrist is phobia galore. |
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Post by 1dave on Jun 28, 2018 8:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 8:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 8:39:44 GMT -5
a new technique. Overly thick melt slab hammered and nipped for re-melt to blob cabs. Saves a whole bunch of shaping on the flat lap.  |
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Post by surreality on Jun 28, 2018 8:52:17 GMT -5
We have about 500lbs of sheet glass in the living room from years back. Used to use it in place of stones, backed with art paper for the clear, then leather, for doing beaded bezels. Just getting it settled into the room there was a moment of 'the glass stayed still while my hands kept moving', and right through the gloves and into the fingers. I was really lucky I have a fairly light touch. Always meant to get a ringsaw to cut it, but the cash and the motivation never lined up, so it sits. It creates a very safe edge to handle. The 'score and crack and grind' method still leaves some jags and sharp sections. Meanwhile, the scraps I bought that had been cut at a local shop with a ringsaw, I'd feel comfortable juggling or running against my face. It's that much of a night and day difference, and after that one cut to my hands... nope, not touching it until I can get a hold of one of those machines. Things of nightmares surreality. c-r-i-n-g-e to the nth ! "'the glass stayed still while my hands kept moving'" All of my injuries these days are crazy art-related injuries. I actually did much worse with -- wait for it! -- yarn. We have a mechanical winder, and, wellllll... thank goodness the makers put in an emergency shutoff for 'any sort of snag or change in tension'. Thankfully with the glass I noticed immediately and sprang away fast, so while horrifying conceptually the actual cuts weren't bad. I was super lucky and knew it, hence waiting on the ringsaw before I handle it again. They're full giant sheets of really heavy Ouroboros glass and another box of half sheets of... Y-something I won't even pretend I can spell. Gorgeous! But nnnngh. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 9:13:22 GMT -5
Things of nightmares surreality. c-r-i-n-g-e to the nth ! "'the glass stayed still while my hands kept moving'" All of my injuries these days are crazy art-related injuries. I actually did much worse with -- wait for it! -- yarn. We have a mechanical winder, and, wellllll... thank goodness the makers put in an emergency shutoff for 'any sort of snag or change in tension'. Thankfully with the glass I noticed immediately and sprang away fast, so while horrifying conceptually the actual cuts weren't bad. I was super lucky and knew it, hence waiting on the ringsaw before I handle it again. They're full giant sheets of really heavy Ouroboros glass and another box of half sheets of... Y-something I won't even pretend I can spell. Gorgeous! But nnnngh. I worked in industrial textiles (southern boy) and the machinery is always rotating/wrapping or squeezing. The looms were 70 feet wide with a 18 pound shuttle fired by hydraulic/air cannon at 150 MPH back and forth all day. Accidentally leave a pencil or piece of candy on the shuttle running board and out comes the shuttle no telling where. Uroborus maybe. It is a Spectrum product and is their top of line. |
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Post by MsAli on Jun 28, 2018 9:38:56 GMT -5
I had a childhood friend that did the same thing. He was sleep walking and went through thier patio door. Cut himself up pretty bad. Maybe you dont need sheet glass eh? So sorry to hear about your friend. (cringe cringe cringe). I am used to steel, throwing it around with out worry, but glass is another story. My plan is to put the whole 4000 to 5000 pounds on a trailer and back it under a shed and let customers come and remove it from the crates. Please don't make me handle it. Please. I will have to handle the keepers eventually. Maybe a full leather outfit ? I ran an add in a Facebook 'glass supplies for sale' group. It appears this glass is at least 15 years old meaning it was probably colored with the expensive metal coloring agents. Curious to see if there is any interest. I am getting a whole bunch of powdered glass(and regular sized) frit in 1 kilo jars. The powder is great for glass 'paintings'. Facebook ad: Leather gloves are a must Hopefully you will get a buyer My friend was alright-living a happy life with his beautiful wife and boys |
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Post by surreality on Jun 28, 2018 12:25:09 GMT -5
All of my injuries these days are crazy art-related injuries. I actually did much worse with -- wait for it! -- yarn. We have a mechanical winder, and, wellllll... thank goodness the makers put in an emergency shutoff for 'any sort of snag or change in tension'. Thankfully with the glass I noticed immediately and sprang away fast, so while horrifying conceptually the actual cuts weren't bad. I was super lucky and knew it, hence waiting on the ringsaw before I handle it again. They're full giant sheets of really heavy Ouroboros glass and another box of half sheets of... Y-something I won't even pretend I can spell. Gorgeous! But nnnngh. I worked in industrial textiles (southern boy) and the machinery is always rotating/wrapping or squeezing. The looms were 70 feet wide with a 18 pound shuttle fired by hydraulic/air cannon at 150 MPH back and forth all day. Accidentally leave a pencil or piece of candy on the shuttle running board and out comes the shuttle no telling where. Uroborus maybe. It is a Spectrum product and is their top of line. I think this may be old enough to be from when they were their own thing. It's at least 15 years old now, I think. They had a special offer for a while on mixed batches in a crate of 250lbs or something similarly crazy, for things that didn't come out quite to spec for the lot, special order colors they had extras of, and similar. There's some neat colors and combinations in there, and thankfully they all have the raw globby 'safe' edge on at least one side to make them a little less terrifying to handle whenever I can get a hold of a saw. And yep, one loop around the pinkie, and I'm lucky I still have the top joint of that finger. If I wasn't using a softer, thicker, and heavier yarn than I normally do, I absolutely would't. I've seen some of the industrial looms -- I imagine those pencils would end up stuck in a wall somewhere, or imbedded in the ceiling, etc. (The campy movie 'Wanted'? Curve the path of bullets? Pfft, fine, sure, my suspension of disbelief can squint hard and suffer that. Catch a shuttle from one of those industrial looms? HA! Madness!) |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 12:28:51 GMT -5
MsAli Great news that he was not permanently injured. Wonder if he also has a glass phobia. Nothing is sharp like glass. There will be a market. However none of the experts on the glass forums has ever heard of this imported brand. they have tons of the common US brands too though. I just focused on the import stuff because I have god luck with China made glass. Denise bought a big ceramic pot melt bowl, they require a lot of glass. She can have a free for all doing pot melts. and I can slap us up some glass so it won't go to waste. I wish one of us was a wall art artist because the big load of powdered frit makes fine paintings on sheet glass. Some of the frit may be reactive too to make stuff like the Greek plate textures.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 13:20:47 GMT -5
I worked in industrial textiles (southern boy) and the machinery is always rotating/wrapping or squeezing. The looms were 70 feet wide with a 18 pound shuttle fired by hydraulic/air cannon at 150 MPH back and forth all day. Accidentally leave a pencil or piece of candy on the shuttle running board and out comes the shuttle no telling where. Uroborus maybe. It is a Spectrum product and is their top of line. I think this may be old enough to be from when they were their own thing. It's at least 15 years old now, I think. They had a special offer for a while on mixed batches in a crate of 250lbs or something similarly crazy, for things that didn't come out quite to spec for the lot, special order colors they had extras of, and similar. There's some neat colors and combinations in there, and thankfully they all have the raw globby 'safe' edge on at least one side to make them a little less terrifying to handle whenever I can get a hold of a saw. And yep, one loop around the pinkie, and I'm lucky I still have the top joint of that finger. If I wasn't using a softer, thicker, and heavier yarn than I normally do, I absolutely would't. I've seen some of the industrial looms -- I imagine those pencils would end up stuck in a wall somewhere, or imbedded in the ceiling, etc. (The campy movie 'Wanted'? Curve the path of bullets? Pfft, fine, sure, my suspension of disbelief can squint hard and suffer that. Catch a shuttle from one of those industrial looms? HA! Madness!) These 30x30 inch sheets have only one glob edge. Lots of variation in color and each piece is different even if the same part no. Off spec is cool, repeat color boring. It doesn't take much of a string to chop a finger. Especially when horsepower is involved. That type of cut hurts too. the hydraulic cannon was insane, the hydraulic oil at 3000 psi compressed an air container with a bladder in it similar to a pressure tank on a well. A big air valve would open and the bladder pushed a plunger at high speed and force. 15 pound composite shuttle launches like a rocket. Designed by Swedes. |
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Post by surreality on Jun 28, 2018 14:13:59 GMT -5
My favorite thing to dye is fine tencel (strong as heck and very thin), so I really got lucky. It spun quickly enough it compressed everything -- stung like mad but didn't bleed a drop. I just sorta stared at it, bent my finger, and tried not to pass out at what I was looking at. It healed quickly, thankfully! I had to help teach a dye class later that week. Dipping that into hot citric acid solution would have been less than fun.
If I get over to the glass at some point this summer in the cleanout of that room I'll see if I can get some images of it. I'd never thought of tumbling any of it until I saw this thread, in part because the surface pattern is often lumpy in a very pretty way. If anyone's a really big fan of eggs... I will happily find a way to cut and send those sheets to them. There were a few -- probably from some custom order -- that were all white and yellow and looked like fried eggs. Not the most striking combo for me personally or for my purposes, but it was happy sunshine with light coming through it. Reminded me of an odd US opal type in a honey golden color from somewhere in the northwest we stumbled across at a show as bead strands (and could not come within miles of being able to afford).
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 17:36:52 GMT -5
Glass is a challenge to tumble for me anyway surreality. I had to modify a vibe to get the job done. anxious to see a photo of the egg glass. |
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Post by MsAli on Jun 28, 2018 17:45:58 GMT -5
MsAli Great news that he was not permanently injured. Wonder if he also has a glass phobia. Nothing is sharp like glass. There will be a market. However none of the experts on the glass forums has ever heard of this imported brand. they have tons of the common US brands too though. I just focused on the import stuff because I have god luck with China made glass. Denise bought a big ceramic pot melt bowl, they require a lot of glass. She can have a free for all doing pot melts. and I can slap us up some glass so it won't go to waste. I wish one of us was a wall art artist because the big load of powdered frit makes fine paintings on sheet glass. Some of the frit may be reactive too to make stuff like the Greek plate textures. As far as I know he doesnt have any phobias. Life happened and we dont talk much anymore. Look up fused glass sun catchers |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2018 18:26:13 GMT -5
MsAli Great news that he was not permanently injured. Wonder if he also has a glass phobia. Nothing is sharp like glass. There will be a market. However none of the experts on the glass forums has ever heard of this imported brand. they have tons of the common US brands too though. I just focused on the import stuff because I have god luck with China made glass. Denise bought a big ceramic pot melt bowl, they require a lot of glass. She can have a free for all doing pot melts. and I can slap us up some glass so it won't go to waste. I wish one of us was a wall art artist because the big load of powdered frit makes fine paintings on sheet glass. Some of the frit may be reactive too to make stuff like the Greek plate textures. As far as I know he doesnt have any phobias. Life happened and we dont talk much anymore. Look up fused glass sun catchers I like them. No need to do the lead connections like stained glass folks do since a melt slab will do. Good thing about glass is it is so weatherproof. Can make a bunch of sun catchers with all this glass Allison. I am doing a test melts to see where the colors land on this new glass. It appears to strike a lot, because the color description does not match the color of the glass before heating. Like the white turns pink and gray turns purple, called striker glass. Makes predicting color tricky. Top shelf, a bunch of hammer broken thick chunks from the bird's nest slab being melted down to blobs. at lower bottom is some solid color test melts of the new glass.  Bottom shelf testing the rods and frit. Some plates  |
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