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Post by chassroc on Dec 15, 2011 16:13:29 GMT -5
Kris is a lot like John Kerry, Patriots who don't just drink the koolaid and wave the flagno matter what
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Post by chassroc on Dec 13, 2011 9:10:43 GMT -5
Beating (or even a good showing ) against the Pats would validate his standing ... and convert more than a few non-believers!
The old axiom is that good defense beats good offense (but those fellows haven't been watching football the last ten years). Brady and the Pats can generate offense, can Denver hold them under 30 points? Can Tebow's offense score 30 points against the weakest defense in the country?
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Post by chassroc on Dec 12, 2011 12:44:22 GMT -5
He did it again! Next week ghis Patsy is the PATs
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Post by chassroc on Dec 12, 2011 11:15:08 GMT -5
I was watching ESPN the other day and they showed a video of a brawl that shut down the crosstown Xavier-Cincinnati game.
Both teams had four players suspended.
One player sucker punched a player on the other team who looked to be "waltzing" at arms length with a player from the other team.
The player who threw the sucker punch got just a six game suspension (although their may be some CJ prosection by the local DA, who knows)
Does anyone know how many games the poor kid on the other team got for being sucker punched?
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Post by chassroc on Dec 11, 2011 9:12:02 GMT -5
Have a great day ..find some rocks
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Post by chassroc on Dec 10, 2011 13:01:26 GMT -5
Happy Birthday and many more Charlie
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Post by chassroc on Dec 10, 2011 12:56:22 GMT -5
Both Republican and Democrats go to court every election to prevent demonstrations and they usually win; Either by preventing the protesters from getting permits or by forcing them to protest behind fences in less conspicuous places. OWS will be no different
Don- that is exactly what was done in the case of OWS; most places shut it down with health and safety statuates
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Post by chassroc on Dec 10, 2011 12:50:13 GMT -5
Way back in the day the worker protests which transformed into unions accomplished a lot of good for safety and other working conditions. Pretty hard to figure out how long it took before greed took over and people got paid $25 an hour to tighten down a nut. Jim...I think that happened about the same time as the hired management started getting millions of dollars to mange the workers who tighten down the nuts and many millions more when they quit the company.
Bill...just kidding with you but as you say...there is a place for lawyers in this country. A litigiousness society could not exist without the approval and full endorsement of its citizens who make up the juries that award outrageous restitution. But I trust my lawyer will help create a more just and equitable society than a corporation will.
Requiring a permit to gather and protest is real difficult to swallow. So easy for the authorities to abuse. But where do you draw the line? Can you?
Regarding greed and corruption blaming the business community is wrong and those who do so are wrong. But blaming those in Industry who are responsible for ruining the Economy is the right thing to do. And as far as Government is concerned, we need Sarbanes Oxley type statutes enforced on our Legislators to stop the cozy arrangements they have with the business community.
There are always those in every movement who are hangers on, the Posse or entourage, so-to-speak. They should not characterize the movement as they live from handout to handout and gravitate to where they can get the next handout.
The extreme left and the extreme right co-opt the policy of movements and often the country. (domestically and abroad this is the truth). I detest either extreme and I believe most people do so as well. Fundamental change usually comes from the extremists however. Most of us will go along with the status quo rather than commit extreme acts. We will compromise even when we know we are right. The Hitlers and Stalins of this world have no concern about who lives and dies, only that their dream lives on.
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 15:15:01 GMT -5
Seems like we are saying it is ok to protest, as long as it is legal and it doesn't make a mess. Isn't that pretty much what Putin, and Assad are saying?
No comments about for how long a protest can last
Bill - Are you sure you're not a Lawyer? You're answers sound very precise to me.
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 15:06:46 GMT -5
No Charlie, nobody is running while advocating strict gun control. They know that they wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected if they did. You have only to look at the past records of the ones running, to know where they really stand on gun control
Thank you Don. I appreciate your honesty
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 12:46:43 GMT -5
I do not know how much clearer I make this for you Mel....No one is taking your guns away today. Nobody is running for office advocating strict gun control( or even mild gun control. It ain't happening. You know and I know it. It ain't happening today. I cannot speak for intentions evil or otherwise(who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men- the shadow knows!); I am speaking of realities today. It aint happening. Noone is taking your guns away. no one, not no way, not no how
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 9:33:09 GMT -5
I suppose you are correct Todd but getting back to the point. does anyone have the right to protest in the USA and how far can they or the powers that be go to stop the?
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 9:26:18 GMT -5
As Americans, we won't like the outcome of Arab Spring and what happens when it spreads to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and UAE? (and most likely Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan)...a lot of hatred and mistrust of America in that part of the world and we are very likely to end up with a lot of Iranian influenced governments but if you believe in American priciples you root against The Sadat's, Assad's, and Khadafi's of this world anyway.
Good observation Curt...no encroaching on the rights of others...lots of common sense here. but to protest effectively dont you have to encroach on the rights of others and endanger them?
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 9:05:28 GMT -5
Very nice...About the same number of years learning how to stay with one woman as I've had. Congraulations...very hard to stay fresh for that long! my wife and I have seperate crafts but we hunt for rocks together on vacations
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 6:33:54 GMT -5
Most of us, if we have not felt outright joy, have given at the very least, tacit approval, to the "Arab Spring" movements. Many of us remember how great we felt about the anti communist demonstations that helped topple the Iron Curtain, the Gdansk uprising in Poland, the brave soul in Tiananmen Square, the pride we felt in America.
Ignoring, if you can, your personal likes or dislikes of specific groups, just how far should we allow our Government go to stop protests that don't want to go away quickly?
If, How soon, When? What is off limits? Is there a right to protest indefinitely? What is the time limit? Must there be a permit to protest? Who decides...the people you are protesting against? To what extent should protestors be allowed to inconvenience others? Should they have "Squatters Rights" Hell no, we wont go, but after 11PM who wants to hear it? Is there a curfew?
If something you believed in dearly was the subject of the protest, what rights do you have in America? Where do you draw the line. Don't be a politician here and rail against some movement you don't like. Think of your favorite cause and tell us what should be allowed and what is not. Or should we squash all protests?
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Post by chassroc on Dec 9, 2011 5:23:10 GMT -5
Read my lips...Nobody is taking anyone's guns away. Period. End of story. Noone is going undercover or behind your backs to take your guns away. Nobodys minions are taking your guns away. The secratary of State and the Vice President are not taking your guns. Ben Bernanke and Eric Holder are not taking your guns. Nobody, nowhere! Gun ownership has increased, not decreased under Obama's watch.
So Boys...just how many UN "laws" do you abide by? How many UN Laws do any of you obey? How many of you have been arrested, fined, and prosecuted by the UN? (I'd worry a little more about your local police being able to stop and search you and your vehicle for a busted taillight..but that's just little old naive me) Just how effective is the UN? This Big Brother that has no army of its own, that is even more fractured than the US Congress. What are you so afraid of from the most ineffective group on this planet. Do you see any evidence that the UN can impose any type of "gun laws" on the USA. It ain't gonna happen. and You and I both know it. Use your brains and some common sense. Charlie
PS-What drives up the prices of ammo is the hysteria from those of us who imagine their guns are being taken away.
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Post by chassroc on Dec 8, 2011 17:17:18 GMT -5
Obama has been President for several years and let's see, How many gun control laws have been passed by Congress? Ahhhh , The sounds of silence again. The courts have been rewriting gun laws in the opposite direction, oh those damn Liberal judges are doing it again.
When he was running for President, He said continually , "I'm not going to take your guns away". Mel, you have what, 29 guns? How many have been removed by Obama (or anyone else) during his watch?
Nobaody is coming for your guns or jakes or anyone elses. It is just not happening. No United Nations efforts(to stop the glow of weapons to third world countries in Africa) will change the US Constitution or make the Constitution irrelevent. It's just not happening. The only way to change laws in this country are via Congress or Constitutional Amendment. and Mel, you are not a stupid man and know this is true.
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Post by chassroc on Dec 8, 2011 12:06:05 GMT -5
Do you actually see anyone running for office, even in Texas or South Dakota, who actually is in favor of gun control and admits it?
I'm betting it is an overwhelmingly rare commodity charlie
BTW - Gray, c'mon do a little research before you accept nonsense as Gospel- charlie
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Post by chassroc on Dec 8, 2011 12:02:55 GMT -5
Women rule our lives... both on and off tv
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Post by chassroc on Dec 7, 2011 17:09:43 GMT -5
My favorites are "Dexter" and "The amazing race" and "Middle" and all of Gordon Ramsey's shows(Hells Kitchen/kitchen nightmares) and the reality shows(loggers/swamp people/Pawn stars/auction hunters/swords /deadliest catch etc)
Least favorite Hannitty and O'Reilly
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