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Post by snowmom on Sept 28, 2015 14:06:23 GMT -5
banded Iron can sometimes be found with wider bands, and the red can be similar color to the reds in MEJ... I can probably put you in touch with somebody who can give you a choice of MEJ if you'd like. PM me if so!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 28, 2015 7:15:07 GMT -5
(applause) droolworthy thread, watching with interest, such beauty all in one place. Thanks to all for the show... don't stop! (Roy- where are you?)
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Post by snowmom on Sept 28, 2015 7:05:10 GMT -5
I find lots of huge holes dug on some of the state lands and beaches, and places where there have been atv's and 4wd vehicles driven. I know this is night time activity when there is no ranger presence... one of those guys is a lot more suspect than a guy on foot out in the waves well off the beach (Tim Obrien found that Petoskey stone in 2' of water) Here we have many parts of the lake that is 2' deep 20 ft or more from shore). The law is most likely in place to be able to prosecute the nocturnal and rotten types, and is really 'honor system' and pretty much unenforceable without a huge park police presence. Without a law on the books, that would not be possible. Still I'd rather they go after the nocturnal bandits who are doing so much more destruction than the Tim O'Brien types.
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Post by snowmom on Sept 28, 2015 6:55:18 GMT -5
JamesP you will have MiLive calling me next for an interview. gee thanks.
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Post by snowmom on Sept 28, 2015 6:51:59 GMT -5
how beautiful! It is difficult for me to imagine living in a landscape that is hundreds and hundreds of years old, the USA has such recent history compared to most of the world... Cool old buildings, ancient ruins to explore.... what an adventure. Thanks for sharing it!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 28, 2015 6:48:21 GMT -5
Always happens when clueless people are put in charge. I think the Mi DNR does try to provide recreational opportunities for all sorts, and in all fairness, if they don't know the demand exists, how can the be expected to provide for it? Some of the responsibility has to lie with the people being served. We have to be in communication with the folks who serve us. Otherwise they are left to make up the rules without a clue. They can't be expected to be experts in all fields. This applies to all branches of government in my opinion. Squeaky wheel and all that.
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Post by snowmom on Sept 28, 2015 6:28:49 GMT -5
Michigan has a 25 pound per year limit for collector's personal use. (from state lands) Tim has spoken with DNR and probably won't be charged or fined. The man who is the DNR publicity coordinator used to be a reporter for MiLive, which first broke the story, and it was a great way to get the new rules publicized... ( my opinion). The rule was enacted early in 2014 and was in answer to the fact that there was no policy on rock collecting on the books and each ranger was interpreting it according to their own ideas, so a person hunting rocks one day would be told that they must not touch any of them, and others turned a blind eye. I was told this in a conversation with a newly trained ranger April of 2014. I suspect there was not much, if any input from rock hunters in forming this policy. It is a great opportunity for Michigan rock hunters to let the DNR know (politely) of their presence and how much rock hunting adds to the Michigan economy. If they don't know the demand exists, how can they be expected to put rock hunting opportunities in place for us? The public parks are to serve all of us. We pay taxes, we buy the stickers, those of us that travel add to tourism dollars so important to the state. Letting our voices be heard will reveal a demand and presence much larger than they seem to believe exists. Rock hunters are a solitary bunch, but it seems like it is time to speak up.
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Post by snowmom on Sept 27, 2015 8:33:35 GMT -5
beautiful work!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 27, 2015 7:31:16 GMT -5
DNR has talked to him and there will be no fine. The policy of 25 lb per person per year is recent (2014)and was enacted to help rangers with inconsistent policy, according to the ranger I spoke with last year. rock collectors were often told different things depending on the ranger they talked to. Policy was evidently set without consulting rock collectors, (my opinion) and still varies with the park that is being hunted. rules and enforcement are still being sorted out and the more rock hunters make their presence known through (friendly) letters, phone calls, stopping at the ranger stations when visiting an area you want to collect, the more likely we are to have use of parks and recreation areas. Tim has suggested that he would be willing to pay for a special rock hound license. I am not sure about that, our taxes are already paying for state parks. Treasure hunters have persued the right to metal detect and pan for gold in the parks, I am thinking rock hounds should unite and make their presence and park usage known as well. If the DNR know there is a demand for areas that can be collected, they are likely to set policies more congenially than if only the "take only pictures, leave only footprints" guys are the ones who speak up. my 2 cents.
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Post by snowmom on Sept 27, 2015 7:17:22 GMT -5
watching with interest, keep us posted! love the ibex!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 27, 2015 7:14:10 GMT -5
beautiful! congratulations!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 25, 2015 5:57:57 GMT -5
spectacular!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 18, 2015 4:00:53 GMT -5
Yes! (yes yes) LOL, saving that one Don.
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Post by snowmom on Sept 18, 2015 3:51:12 GMT -5
There's plenty here, i'll keep my eyes open for ya!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 17, 2015 13:38:59 GMT -5
you all are making me think of more. There is a little Steadman bi=plane that hangs out over the bay sometimes, I can hear his engine miles away if the wind is right and can hear it rev and stress as he does climbs, rolls, etc... I rush out to get a glimpse of him when I hear the sound of that motor. Likewise the sound of the C130's and Fighter jets from the nearby air base, both give me a sort of patriotic thrill when I hear them. Like no other sound on earth. We used to live near the edge of an air base when in southern il. The C-130's dropping on their approach and floating over our house were so close you could see everything printed on there, see the landing gear etc quite clearly. I felt I was so close then that it would be possible to almost reach up and touch them. They are so huge I have always marveled at how it is possible for something that massive to stay in the air.
crickets and cicadia's songs on a hot summer evening. The sound of a distant small motor boat coming into shore as dark approaches, the cry of an elk bull at dusk, loons that call as they fly over my house every morning- gone now, they are on their way south for the winter. keep the sounds coming!
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Post by snowmom on Sept 17, 2015 6:32:46 GMT -5
everybody has favorite sounds, what are some of yours?
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Post by snowmom on Sept 17, 2015 6:05:35 GMT -5
most people are visually oriented, a few gain more input and satisfaction from sound, some very few from smell and taste, others still fewer by touch. Jean's recent post about what makes us smile made me realize (again) that I am sound oriented. Here is a link to one of my favorite sounds.... the sound of bells. www.cccbr.org.uk/bellrecordings/introduction.php
How do you know if you are sound oriented? If somebody asks you to remember an incident from the past, do you look up, or do you look down as you try to remember? If you look up, you are visualizing the moment, if you look down you are probably listening to things your memory brings forth. If you love the printed word, love to read, you may be sound oriented, you hear the sound of the word as you read, don't you? Do you learn better if you read about something? You may be sound oriented. are there others on the board who are sound oriented? Post some of your favorite sounds here, please! I am guessing a couple of you in particular will identify as sound oriented, and will wait to see if I guessed right! thanks for looking (and listening!)
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Post by snowmom on Sept 17, 2015 5:48:18 GMT -5
While trying to think of things that make me smile I realized that almost all of the things I could think of were not visual, but most were sounds. The sound of the lake whether it is lapping or roaring and booming, the sound of the brook, the wind through the trees, the sound of chimes and bells, almost all of my favorite music, the sound of kids playing. Chickens talking to each other- they have actual conversations, did you know ? Crackling leaves underfoot in the fall, can't post photos of those. something to play with and hear some awesome bells! www.soundsurvey.org.uk/index.php/survey/soundacts_re1/religious1/274/
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Post by snowmom on Sept 17, 2015 5:28:06 GMT -5
rockjunquie, got one to show us?
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Post by snowmom on Sept 17, 2015 5:26:17 GMT -5
having lived on prairie land most of my life I still get a thrill driving through ( or hiking) through the woods. hardwoods forest or cedar grove, the smell of the trees gets me every time. nothing makes me feel more settled or in touch with nature than smelling trees and knowing my heart is 'home'. must've been a druid in another life or something.
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