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Post by elementary on Jan 2, 2013 11:47:59 GMT -5
This whole index is a 'living' document. Every two years we update it and revise it, correct mistakes and add new photos. So, yes, this material was covered earlier. (The Southwest and Northwest volumes are the ones that have already been posted but I am reposting them with a new set of links. John can keep his set up - thanks John! - but I am establishing my own links where I can share these files. As for CA Essentially the earlier california volume (2010) was split into two sections. This new volume brings the two sections together and adds many new locations (the LA county locations, several poppy jaspers, Last Chance Canyon, etc). So look at 2012 as the definitive volume. In 2014 the next series should come out with much new photos and additions.
The California 10a and 10b are the last volumes from the 2010 series - tho I finished them in 2011.
So - All the volumes I have just posted above (except for California) have already been released by us. The California document updates the two volumes - consider is a 2nd revised edition - so everything is in one place.
Gotta run to get the car looked at. Please let me know if my rush to answer actually confused you,
Lowell
Don - sent PM. I had your name correct everywhere in the document but that one page. I am sorry for the mistake and blame failing and tired eyes that missed the difference between an a and o. You can answer my PM with your response.
I apologize for the mistake.
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Post by elementary on Jan 2, 2013 5:03:15 GMT -5
The 3rd 2012 Agate Index is ready! California is over 270 pages long with hundreds of colorful photographs provided by a couple dozen collectors and dealers. I have also reset all previous 2012 volumes with download links. I do not plan on taking time to do any of the 2010 volumes again, though the files still exist. All the states not appearing in the 2012 indexes will be replaced in the next couple months with updated 2012 volumes. (Please see following note about prior issues with MediaFire as a file share site.) 2012 Vol 3 - California (110 MB) www.mediafire.com/view/?9up5qxv0of3rl892012 Vol 2 - Northwest (80 MB) www.mediafire.com/view/?12m6sn69h2t08ik2012 Vol 2 - Southwest (56 MB) www.mediafire.com/view/?odzmygviwc8i4ryHere are the links to the "Artists in Agate" Portfolios I've created. They show the best of the best from people on this site: Steve Haynes - Lakers (7 MB) www.mediafire.com/view/?aa6g0va3a2akj6eDan Heuer - The Lapidary Alphabet (15 MB) www.mediafire.com/view/?urxhkguex6z9czdDan Heuer - Rare Earths (8 MB) www.mediafire.com/view/?2ops91rwrasrkclBob Rush - Brazilians (15 MB) www.mediafire.com/view/?si5h5ck842las0yPresently I plan on having all these files on two or three platforms for download. 1) 4shared.com -- this website has not been infected with a virus and has been reliable since the beginning of this project. The downside is you need to create an account (tho extremely easy) and the download times are fairly slow. The upside is that you will be able to access all the files I've created once you join. 2) MediaFire (yes the same mediafire that had the virus problem over the summer) Presently there does not seem to be any virus issues with the site, and it doesn't require a membership. It also has faster download times. Mel used this source to download his copy for editing purposes. 3) The last method is by mail. I will be putting together a list of people who would like to receive a copy in the mail. That person would copy files from the disc or stick and then send it on to the next person on the list. The disc would contain all the files created up until now. 4) There is also John who has provided links to many of the files which are still up on the main link. These are safe, but are not the fastest method of downloading. I appreciate all that he has done to keep these files available. If you know the old index, this one has gone through many changes. 1) The new edition is gathering more material together in each volume. Volume Three covers all aspects of California rather than splitting it in half like the 2010 edition. The side effect of this effort is that the file is much larger than before. This new volume runs just over 100 MB. 2) There are indexes at the end of the volume that list the contents by county and location, as well as by common and trade names (if known). This will help people who are using the index to research the type of material found at a specific location. There is also a contributor index in the back showing the page numbers for their photos. 3) Many new locations have been added to the file. There are still missing pieces, though, such as Berkley eggs and Calico Sagenite. Currently this file is only on Mediafire, tho I'll have it on 4shared.com within a day or two. The table of contents is as follows: Fossil Material 4 Thundereggs 27 Nodular Agates 51 Dendritic Material 80 Moss Material 87 Plume Material 107 Brecciated Material 132 Orbicular Material 157 Agate - Miscellaneous 186 Jasper - Miscellaneous 216 Other Quartz Material 226 Peripheral Material 235 Contributors 263 Contributor Index 265 Location Index 266 Name Index 270 Additional Publications 271 Final Word 272 Appreciations 273 Contributors include: The Collectors (some deal): Jason Badgley (CA) californiaagategallery.com/index.htmlDaniel Bontempo (KS) Jim Brace-Thompson (CA) DzrtGrlz (CA) dzrtgrls.com/Chuck Eastman (CA) Tony and Sandy Fender (CA) Lowell Foster (CA) Dan Heuer (NM) Jason Hinkle (OR) www.oregonthundereggs.com/Mel Hixson (TX) Martin Kramer (CA) David Rix - Eibonvale (London) www.thundereggs.co.uk/blog: thundereggs.wordpress.com/Bob Rush (CA) bobscabshop.goshopper.net/Brian Sellers (AZ) Paul Shiroma (CA) Larry Sorenson (CA) Ron Wise (CA) Gerald and Kathy Woodside (WA) Don Woodward (SD) and The Dealers (some collect): Geoffrey Hubbs - Geoffreyʼs Cabochons (CA) www.etsy.com/shop/geoffreyscabochonsHand 2 Mouth Mining (CA) hand2mouthmining.net/Christopher Anthony (CA) (also listed as Christopher Lesso in previous volumes) bakersfield.craigslist.org/search/?areaID=63&subAreaID=&query=christopher +anthony&catAbb=sss Ed Orekar - Stones in Motion (CA) stonesinmotion.com/South Fork Mining (CA) southforkmining.com/Stones That Rock (AZ) www.stonesthatrock.net/Stoneviews (AZ) stoneviews.com/StoreFront.bokTom Wolfe Minerals (CA) tomwolfeminerals.com/www.wolfelapidary.com/Please let me know of any issues, Lowell and Mel
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Post by elementary on Dec 31, 2012 16:06:16 GMT -5
Hey, I can't tell you the value of turq...it's not my thing, but I bought a book called Turquoise Unearthed by Joe Dan Lowry and Joe P. Lowry (yeah... two authors with almost the exact name.) These guys run the Turquoise Museum in Albuquerque, NM. The book doesn't do pricing, but it does go into many different mining locations and shows images from most of them. It also discusses rarity to a small degree. www.amazon.com/Turquoise-Unearthed-An-Illustrated-Guide/dp/1887896333Hope this helps a tad, Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 31, 2012 0:57:23 GMT -5
#17 if still available please!
Helen, As I said before, I love your work.
The Agate Index files will be included two different ways - one as a CD and the second on a memory stick (or whatever you want to call it.)
It will include only the 2012 volumes (#1 Southwest/#2 Northwest/#3 California) along with the Artists in Agate series that include Bob Rush's portfolio, two portfolios for Dan Heuer, and one of Steve Haynes' closeups of his Laker collection. All showcase some of the best cabs ever to be shared here, and each person uses incredible camerawork to capture their art.
Please copy from your preferred source and replace back in the box.
As for what I can drop in the box - depends how much room I've given.....fire agate (sparkly), variscite (soft), uncut t-eggs (hard), Mel's poppy jasper he's been showcasing (got 3 crates from him when he moved) (dotted), apache tears for tumbling (black), pet wood twigs (pokey), might have a small piece of crazylace I can let go into the box (loco), some clear quartz for tumbling or polishing - might even facet...heck... I'll look at that list again at the front of this thread and see how much Santa I can play...
Hope no one minds that I'm at the front of the line. I don't really plan on taking anything except a piece of glass art (and maybe a piece or two of things to allow more space for specific wants...)
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Post by elementary on Dec 30, 2012 12:42:19 GMT -5
Bob,
I have images of most of what you mentioned, though I'm always looking for additional shots to provide variety, and the Chapinite you sent me a long while back listed as coming from Fort Irwin (I do believe).
Also, I want to thank you for the disc, but my computer couldn't read it. It claimed the disc was empty. I'll try at school when I'm back. My wife even tried to figure it out and came away shrugging.
Still - as always - a huge thanks for your support,
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 30, 2012 0:40:49 GMT -5
Dang! Love this haul. Interesting baker u got there...and the other looks to b from Oregon with that green rind, but from exactly I can't say.
And boyo boy, I give U an A+ on that flame and willow.
To quote jack,s joker...where does he get such wonderful toys?
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 29, 2012 12:10:19 GMT -5
2012 Agate Index - California - has been reviewed by Mel. Needs only a couple small corrections and the indexes written. Should by out by New Years. Over 250 pages. Lots of brecciated. Lots of poppies. Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 22, 2012 12:35:16 GMT -5
Hey Mel,
I hear your points. As for hugging - I don't even hug because I'm a man in a school full of kids and in this day and age, I ain't touching nobody except for the occasionally high five. (sorry I'm not a cute and cuddly teacher) One other thing - I only put this onto the teachers. Admin and guards are different. They role in school is much different.
Please understand, I love guns. I like shooting them. I have many friends who own them. They take me out shooting at times. Target shooting is one of my favorite pastimes tho I don't do it enough - though I don't hunt. Though I understand why many do.
But I am no expert at guns and I would not call myself proficient with guns. I can't identify brands just by looking at them. I would call myself careful. Nor am I afraid to be in a house with guns: my uncle, best friend, two of my neighbors. I, myself, choose my house to be gun free.
Don, Regarding the NRA power vs gun control lobbies and newspaper accounts of good use of guns. Check the amount of money pumped into political groups. NRA ($2.5 million I believe) outspends gun control people ($400k) - numbers are off - going by memory. The reason the stories are not put on the news is because they aren't interesting to people and don't drive ratings and ratings pump up ad revenue. Why else do we see every car chase in LA splashed across our screens... So I don't see conspiracy there - just a business catering to its customers.
Just this - Mel - again, I don't believe teachers should carry as I believe that creates more danger in the classroom - even with training. I don't believe that is part of what we train and do. Admin, again, is different. I guess a crude comparison would be air marshals carry on planes and pilots do their job.
And again, the armed guard at Columbine was not a deterrent there.
Again, I hear your points and see your point of view, but I just think if someone carries on campus, (to get back to my opinion) I wouldn't want it to be a teacher - fine - give it to admin - but I'd rather have police than security guards or NRA volunteers doing that duty - even though that won't guarantee the students' safety.
I think that teachers carrying brings a direct danger on campus in hopes of deterring a possible danger.
My opinion. I don't make policy. I appreciate the counter arguments. It's why I posted. It's the only way we have of checking to see if our own arguments hold water.
Thanks for responding.
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 22, 2012 4:21:30 GMT -5
Ugh....I feel like I touched a frog....
I'm gonna get warts... I know it...
All those bumps and things...
Damn amphibians....
Gosh darn purty things, though....
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 22, 2012 4:18:24 GMT -5
World's still here.... Watcha got planned for tomorrow?
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Post by elementary on Dec 22, 2012 4:11:10 GMT -5
I was going to stay out of this, but I think I need to state my opinion regarding guns at school - especially in the hands of teachers. I teach 6th grade and I would never NEVER allow teachers to carry guns. This is not about the right to carry firearms, nor am I saying that there should not be armed guards (I'm not expressing my opinion on that front - too many variables), but for teachers, my belief comes down to several things: 1 - Putting guns into untrained or inexperienced people's hands is not an answer. What this does is put more guns on campus and provides a greater opportunity for mishaps on the lesser side, or worse yet, if the teacher falls to the intruder, it adds another weapon to his arsenal. Besides, when I hear how a teacher with a gun would stop these events from happening, there is something to remember. Teachers are told NEVER leave their students unattended, so even if there were shots fired, the teacher would not be able leave their students unattended to 'hunt' the killer. How would you feel if the teacher left the room and the killer came in while the students were left unattended? So what if the killer does try to get inside that room? Then there is the possibility of the teacher freezing or hesitating before pulling the trigger, and before you say "I'd do it" I don't believe most people could actually 'know' that until put into that situation. If they can - great - if they can't - tragedy. So for those who can pull the trigger? Why not have them carry? 2 - Students are curious, and many will try to 'see' the gun if they know the teacher has one. There is a large number of students that are not helmed in by logic, but driven by emotion. Fear of punishment doesn't keep them from breaking rules. See as an example my student this year who brought a 4" knife to school after threatening students. He was expelled. Now imagine in high school. How many boys (or for that matter girls) do you think could take on a teacher and take a gun from their possession? Why bring a gun to school if you plan violence if you already know your 50 year old overweight teacher carries one? Heck, take him out somehow and you got yourself a weapon. You don't even need to have intent to put a gun in harm's way. Heck, I have teachers locking themselves out of their rooms all the time. What if it is kept in a purse in the room and is forgotten? Even with training, teachers will forget about the gun at times. This will increase the chance of student misadventure. If you want to disagree, look at www.med.umich.edu/yourchild/topics/guns.htmespecially: "When researchers studied the 30,000 accidental gun deaths of Americans of all ages that occurred between 1979-1997, they found that preschoolers aged 0-4 were 17 times more likely to die from a gun accident in the 4 states with the most guns versus the 4 states with the least guns. Likewise, school kids aged 5-14 were over 13 times more at risk of accidental firearm death in the states with high gun ownership rates. The findings indicate that gun availability is associated with accidental death by shooting [4]." (The statistics here are very interesting....and implies that in our desire to keep our households safe, many people actually endanger them.) Keeping teachers with loaded firearms around kids is not the answer for schools. I believe it would lead to more problems than solutions. We have to remember that these events are EXTREMELY rare for schools. I don't want to overcompensate and create a greater risk to our youth. Nor do I want our schools to become versions of Juvenile Hall Youth Jails - which I have taught at (don't wear a tie...it's a weapon of opportunity.) Finally (I have more, but my fingers are tired). 3 - Chances are the intruder will be better armed than the teacher and more importantly, most likely has already taken another human's life. The teacher, no matter the training, will not have been in that situation (except for the rare case). 4 - From a pure teaching standpoint, once students know there is a gun in the room, the whole goal of teaching them becomes changed. Generalizing, I would say their attention would be shifted, some could be feel threatened, and heaven help the students if the teacher gets / feels threatened (see earlier points made by others.) I'm not saying my stance on the gun control, but I do not believe teachers should carry. Oh, as for armed policemen on campus: latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/01/school-police-officer-shooting-.htmlor security guards: www.opposingviews.com/i/entertainment/shoplifter-killed-overzealous-walmart-securitywww.myfoxtampabay.com/story/19811747/school-security-guard-charged-with-having-sex-with-student(Trust issues?) Oh...and don't forget Columbine had an armed guard during its massacre. www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/columbine-armed-guards_n_2347096.htmlwww.upi.com/blog/2012/12/21/Columbine-had-armed-guards/4111356112309/So...if you want an armed guard...how many do you want? For other unfiltered information, goto www.schoolsecurity.org/index.htmlLook for the yearly indexes for school violence near the bottom of the page. Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 22, 2012 2:52:36 GMT -5
Excellent material. I've heard you mention the Durmor. for a while. I just haven't been able to get out there. This is the first time I've been able to see images of the material that you found out there.
It's great to get stuff that isn't readily known to the masses right now.
Much appreciated.
You are also forcing me to be patient. Silly me thought I was done adding images to the index. I think the date for 'publication' has been pushed back to NewYear'sEve. I still need Mel to review a copy to find my mistakes before I put it out. Once he's done, I can do the indexes. They are a pain to do but I believe they lend credibility and reference value to this series.
Thanks again,
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 21, 2012 23:17:18 GMT -5
Don,
Thanks for the new images. I've been to Hector a couple times, but never pulled up any of what you have there. It's an easy site to get to and I'm thinking of hitting it before I go back to school. With all the rain, you never know what's going to be popping out of the ravine sides.
As for that dendritic opal, again, I've been to the potato patch but never have come across the dendritic material you're showing. I'm curious about the form it was found in: dug from the ground, seam in matrix, weather worn float?
I'd like to use the images in my index, but they are just blurry enough that when I convert to a PDF file, they will worsen. Is there any way you can reshoot with just a tad more clarity? It's great material. I would like to add it.
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 18, 2012 23:04:12 GMT -5
Note - these images will self-destruct in 7 days. I only have them in my photobucket account for resizing purposes. In working on the final phase of the index, I dug out a batch of images I received from well-known local collector Jason Badgley to use in the index almost a year ago. He's scoured the areas around northern LA county and has come across some wonderful specimens. Some of these places he has shared. Others he holds close to his vest. Here's a sampling of his images. Near Malibu Lake Malibu Coast Marcasite Malibu Coast agates Malibu Canyon area (The first you can hold in two hands - I wish there was scale on this. It's the single best piece I've seen from this area.) Agoura Hills w/ Gilsonite Better known site - Acton with Amethyst (I know someone who used to work for CalTrans (the California Road keeper-uppers) who was able to pick nodules from the roadcut on the side of the 14 Freeway. He gave me a bucket of these which were filled with amethyst of varying degrees. I wonder if this came from near there... Other Acton There's more, but I just wanted to toss out there a sampling...(to prove this thing is actually being worked on...) Thanks to Jason - and thank you all for looking, Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 18, 2012 21:41:10 GMT -5
Thanks Elfjello! (Love that name...it just sounds...wrong...in all the right ways.) This thing is up to 225 pages of photos right now . . . and I still have a few more to add.
Pat, Right now the only links listed for this project are at the top of the Cabochon page - the Agate Index project. (Thanks John) but I am working at resetting them all with new download links.
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 18, 2012 21:30:29 GMT -5
Lovin' this!
As for the Rose...I don't think that piece migrated to my pile. I'm fairly sure I would remember it.
CFMS ran a field trip out there last year and people are calling the stuff "Christmas Tree" agate now. It's funny how old things become "new" again with a renaming.
Beautiful dryheads!
Keep them coming!
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 18, 2012 12:08:11 GMT -5
Wow! What a bundle of stuff!
Much thanks for the images! I'll call it a Christmas gift early, and not even wrapped. Better than socks and fruitcake!
I gotta say, you guys are making it hard for me to finish this project. (But that's a good thing.)
Hoping to have this thing out by Christmas... Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 17, 2012 23:08:42 GMT -5
As of last you, you can add the Paul Bunyan Plume site to the claimed sites.
I knew the people who dug out the base of the old diggings and revealed a lot of good new material.
Then they came back and saw someone else popped their dig with a claim.
There's a difference between a Rockhound and a Dealer. One of the differences is claiming previously available sites for personal gain.
Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 16, 2012 16:57:50 GMT -5
Heck! I'll join the thread! Give me an excuse to go outside and gawk at my stash... To all who shared: I love a lot of what you've shown. What I think I've glommed onto most is toolbox specimen holder. That looks really promising for my nodule collection. Hmmmm. So (Sneaking photos between Christmas chores!) Here's the one who'll inherit the whole lot one day: My hole in the wall space. (My goal is to get my idle tumblers moving again this holiday) Two of the drawers are filled with pieces I need a flat lap to finish. You'll see all my bins are labeled. I'm such a stickler for keeping things identified as I hate not knowing where things are from. My buckets are inside the garage, not outside - for the most part: Still more stuff behind the buckets: My pile of mexican materials is somewhere down there: And other stuff in my reinforced shelving: And my outside litter of loot: Chunk of red Kramer Junction agate: And Mel, if you see this, I got this from you and you gave me a very specific name, but I forgot. I found it buried in my side yard under some of that Boron Purple. Psil plume from? Alas...no tags... Thanks for looking, Lowell
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Post by elementary on Dec 16, 2012 16:38:20 GMT -5
Love this stuff.
Thanks for putting out all the detailed images.
It's like a museum without having to travel.
Lowell
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